2018 Delray Beach - ATP 250

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Bionic Poster
'Murica killing each other...there was a chance for two Yanks in the top 10 before Fritz assassinated Querrey and now this will bump off Sock too if Stan wins Marseille.

Jack seems to be badly hungover after his season-ending heroics last year (1R,2R,2R exits in his 1st 3 tournaments of 2018)! Big Sam maybe saving his energies and focus on defending his title south of the border (down Mexico way)?
 

stringertom

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Jack seems to be badly hungover after his season-ending heroics last year (1R,2R,2R exits in his 1st 3 tournaments of 2018)! Big Sam maybe saving his energies and focus on defending his title south of the border (down Mexico way)?
With a first ever listing in the top 10within reach, he embarked on this ambitious 3-tournament NA swing and looked determined to go deep here in the first set (6-2) vs Fritz. He just got beat by a game THF.
 
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No one is watching the Shapo match? Annacone just said, "in my opinion, this young man is the future of tennis." :D

i certainly hope so.
If someone like Zverev is the future of tennis then I’ll probably stop watching tennis.
 

MugOpponent

Hall of Fame
Shapo's mental game is all about giving the opponent numerous break points and demoralizing them by never letting them actually break.
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
Donaldson 3-2 on serve second set. Commentators think Shapovalov could do well on clay with more time for his big groundstrokes.
 

MugOpponent

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Donaldson 3-2 on serve second set. Commentators think Shapovalov could do well on clay with more time for his big groundstrokes.

I could see his game translate to clay. He's got the creativity for point construction and he could run around and get behind the ball for that forehand.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Donaldson 3-2 on serve second set. Commentators think Shapovalov could do well on clay with more time for his big groundstrokes.
I could see his game translate to clay. He's got the creativity for point construction and he could run around and get behind the ball for that forehand.
So far it's his worst surface by some margin, and he lost first round in his four tournaments on the surface last year on the challenger tour and RG qualifying, and also got straight-setted by Coric earlier this year. His low-margin style and lack of patience hasn't translated well to the surface lately, and he prefers faster courts.

But he's young, so things could change.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
So far it's his worst surface by some margin, and he lost first round in his four matches on the surface last year on the challenger tour and RG qualifying, and also got straight-setted by Coric earlier this year. His low-margin style and lack of patience hasn't translated well to the surface lately, and he prefers faster courts.

But he's young, so things could change.
I agree but I think there is no better surface to sharpen his game
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
So what’s the word on JD? He’s also young, definitely giving a potential future slam winner a run for his money here. How far is this guy going? @stringertom ?
They showed a graphic of his hit points on his groundstrokes and he's way too defensive. I think he's ranked where he should be, around #50. He's nothing special at all.
 

MugOpponent

Hall of Fame
You may be right, he's up a break in the second now. He didn't hang his head or give up after losing the first set as many of the young guns do.

Yeah that's his pattern. He's not cut from the same safe space material as so many others are. He'll compete the whole match.
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
Annoying players in identical pink/black kit. Couldn’t Nike arrange one player to have scheme in reverse, black shorts, pink left chest?
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Yeah that's his pattern. He's not cut from the same safe space material as so many others are. He'll compete the whole match.
Shapo's determination and grit slightly (I stress "slightly) remind me of young Rafa. Both being lefty's doesn't hurt either. He's not anywhere as good as teen Nadal, but at least he competes hard on every point and doesn't give up. It's a pretty low bar to compliment a pro tennis player for not giving up, but the young ones all seem to do that now, except Shapo and Chung.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
At least whatever disadvantage there is in wearing those stupid outfits is nullified when both players have to wear them
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I hope Shapo will take the third pretty easily, Donaldson looks deflated. I just hate this weak, throw-in-the-towel attitude in young players.
 
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Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
One thing about that match with Coric on clay is that he was starting to get the hang of clay. Crotia watered the courts all night to make them as slow as possible. Shapo looked good on clay in his Friday match. I'm thinking clay would suit him with a little practice.
 
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Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
I think Shapo will take the third pretty easily, Donaldson looks deflated. I just hate this weak, throw-in-the-towel attitude in young players.
I don't think Donaldson can break him now, Shapo coming on too strong. But please don't go to a tie break Shapo.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Commentators are saying Shapo is playing a lot of Doubles and his goal is to get much better at net. Good move. He still could shorten some points by coming in on floaters, but at least he has the attacking mindset.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
So what’s the word on JD? He’s also young, definitely giving a potential future slam winner a run for his money here. How far is this guy going? @stringertom ?
I was expecting '18 to be a breakout year for him but he has struggled on HC, his best surface. The year is young though. I'm not confident about clay or grass but he did make 3R Wimby with an early retirement by Tipsy and a 4-set win vs grassGOAT Lorenzi before Thiem clubbed him.
 

PeteD

Legend
Shapo doesn't seem to have the shotmaking from last year. I can see this going to TB with Donaldson being more consistent. Although a couple of points ago it was 92-92.
 

Sparlingo

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Shapo doesn't seem to have the shotmaking from last year. I can see this going to TB with Donaldson being more consistent. Although a couple of points ago it was 92-92.
i think he's playing slightly more conservative. When he's on he's on was last year. Now I think he wants to try to win more when he's not on.
 
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