2020 Australian Open SF: Novak Djokovic [2] vs Roger Federer [3]

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  • Novak in three

  • Novak in four

  • Novak in five

  • Roger in three

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swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
I’m thinking whether it would be better for Federer to withdraw to preserve the h2h a bit AND to try breaking Djokovic’s tournament rythm. If Federer withdraws, Djokovic will have 4 full days off before the final, and we know from USO 2016 that getting walkovers is not necessary a good thing.

@HetTheGreaterer what you think?
5 days off before FO 2011 SF as well. Too many days off no good. Too little days off no good.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
I felt sorry watching Federer play Sandgren. It seemed for every minute he stayed on court today, his career gets shorter by a week.
Respect that he played through pain. But at his age, it wasn't necessarily a wise decision.

On the other side, Novak is as pumped up as he was in 2011.

I think it will be W. O. for Novak.
 

celito

Professional
I felt sorry watching Federer play Sandgren. It seemed for every minute he stayed on court today, his career gets shorter by a week.
Respect that he played through pain. But at his age, it wasn't necessarily a wise decision.

On the other side, Novak is as pumped up as he was in 2011.

If he would have quit when people said he should, he'd have 3 less GSs.
 
I’m thinking whether it would be better for Federer to withdraw to preserve the h2h a bit AND to try breaking Djokovic’s tournament rythm. If Federer withdraws, Djokovic will have 4 full days off before the final, and we know from USO 2016 that getting walkovers is not necessary a good thing.

@HetTheGreaterer what you think?
I don't think fed should give him a walkover if he recovers. If he does not recover, he must abandon the match and focus on rehab till his next tournament, i.e. Dubai.
But just because it'll break Djok's rhythm, fed should never give him a walkover. He should do it in order to preserve his own health and not to break his rival's rhythm
 

Forehanderer

Professional
I don't think fed should give him a walkover if he recovers. If he does not recover, he must abandon the match and focus on rehab till his next tournament, i.e. Dubai.
But just because it'll break Djok's rhythm, fed should never give him a walkover. He should do it in order to preserve his own health and not to break his rival's rhythm
I don't think he will. His fighting ability is underestimated here. He will only walk over if he's risking his health.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
Novak should win easily as Fed is far from playing his best unlike Nadal last year.



Nadal was not playing "at his best" last year AO final, his movement had declined a lot, he was 32 years old and slow. Nadal was playing at his best in the AO 2012 final, when he was 25, younger and faster.

Since you like to troll, Federer in the AO 2011 SF was at his absolute best. He was also 3 years younger than 2019 Nadal. 29 years old Federer lost in 3 to Djokovic in the AO 2011 SF.

 

myth

Professional
Nadal was not playing "at his best" last year AO final, his movement had declined a lot, he was 32 years old and slow. Nadal was playing at his best in the AO 2012 final, when he was 25, younger and faster.

Since you like to troll, Federer in the AO 2011 SF was at his absolute best. He was also 3 years younger than 2019 Nadal. 29 years old Federer lost in 3 to Djokovic in the AO 2011 SF.


Oh yeah. Fed has been thrashed a few times by Novak at the AO. There's no question about that.
Novak was not playing his best in the 2012 final. He was exhausted after a big 5 set battle with Murray in the SF and one day less to recover.

Fed was the only one to get wins against a top form Novak in 2011 2015.

29 years old Nadal

 
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TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Nadal was not playing "at his best" last year AO final, his movement had declined a lot, he was 32 years old and slow. Nadal was playing at his best in the AO 2012 final, when he was 25, younger and faster.

Since you like to troll, Federer in the AO 2011 SF was at his absolute best. He was also 3 years younger than 2019 Nadal. 29 years old Federer lost in 3 to Djokovic in the AO 2011 SF.

That was a very competitive 3 set match.
 

I Am Finnish

Bionic Poster
Coming off a match where he 1) looked injured, 2) couldn’t hit routine groundstrokes, 3) served 10mph below average and 4) dragged himself thru 5 sets to beat the world #100....

... more than 23% of TTW voters picked Fed to beat in-form Djokovic on his home court.

Think about that. 23% lol
Never change TTW, never change lol.
But what if :D
 
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Sport

G.O.A.T.
Oh yeah. Fed has been thrashed a few times by Novak at the AO. There's no question about that.
Novak was not playing his best in the 2012 final. He was exhausted after a big 5 set battle with Murray in the SF and one day less to recover.

Fed was the only one to get wins against a top form Novak in 2011 2015.

29 years old Nadal

He was playing at his absolute best. Djokovic was 24 in that final, at the peak of his physical power, with an incredible stamina. He was not exhausted before the final started, but during the final in itself, as it last 6 hours, the longest in tennis history. Nadal, with his incredible stamina, also ended up tired.

Federer never defeated Djokovic in Slams in 2015, and 2011 Djokovic at RG was no different from 2012 Djokovic at RG.
 

TennisFan3

Talk Tennis Guru
Only out of pure respect will I allow Fed losing a close tie break first set, before getting completely destroyed in the 2nd and 3rd possibly getting a full plate of breadsticks an bagels for extra.

It's going to take the miracle of all miracles for Fed to win, especially when he's physically worn out already. It would've been a mighty task if he were 100% Unless of course the Sandgren performance is all part of a grand plan to lull Novak into a false sense of security, to then come out all guns blazing firing winners all over the court. I can' even say this with a straight face and expect any credible support. I actually wouldn't criticise him for withdrawing.

He's going to get absolutely massacred out there. Stanislas you're our last hope - and I'm saying this as a Rafa fan.

Excellent post as usual. It might be an ugly SF in terms of the scoreline. If Fed is NOT well, he should withdraw IMO. A leg + groin injury won't heal so quickly at his age.
No point in being hampered and getting whooped with bakery products.
Even a 100% peak Fed would have a tough time with Novak on this court.

Of all the remaining players in the draw, only Stan has a chance vs Novak. But even that chance is very small. We would literally need PEAK STANIMAL for 5 hours. Which is impossible for 2 reasons: Stan is not at his peak anymore. And secondly, he probably won't get to the final.
 

myth

Professional
He was playing at his absolute best. Djokovic was 24 in that final, at the peak of his physical power, with an incredible stamina. He was not exhausted before the final started, but during the final in itself, as it last 6 hours, the longest in tennis history. Nadal, with his incredible stamina, also ended up tired.

Federer never defeated Djokovic in Slams in 2015, and 2011 Djokovic at RG was no different from 2012 Djokovic at RG.

We agree. "Nadal, with his incredible stamina".


That match was amazing.
Novak was exhausted. He only played well in for 2,5 sets in that match. From the end of the second set to the 4th Set.
 

I Am Finnish

Bionic Poster
Oh yeah. Fed has been thrashed a few times by Novak at the AO. There's no question about that.
Novak was not playing his best in the 2012 final. He was exhausted after a big 5 set battle with Murray in the SF and one day less to recover.

Fed was the only one to get wins against a top form Novak in 2011 2015.

29 years old Nadal

:unsure:
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
We agree. "Nadal, with his incredible stamina".


That match was amazing.

Novak was exhausted. He only played well in for 2,5 sets in that match. From the end of the second set to the 4th Set.
I don't get the quotation marks, Nadal's stamina has always been incredible. Very few players have a similar stamina level and one of them is Djokovic.

Djokovic was exhausted during the match, not before the match, as it lasted 6 hours, the longest final in tennis history. Nadal also had a 4 sets semifinal with Federer, only one set shorter than the Murray-Djovovic SF.

Both Nadal and Djokovic ended up tired during the match due to its long duration.

By the way, following your logic Federer lost to a subpar Nadal in the AO 2009 final because Nadal came from a 5 sets SF with Verdasco and one less day to rest.
 
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myth

Professional
He was exhausted during the match, not before the match, as it lasted 6 hours, the longest final in tennis history. Nadal also had a long 4 hours semifinal with Berdych.

Both Nadal and Djokovic ended up tired during the match due to its long duration.

By the way Nadal played Fed in that SF.

Novak played a brutal SF against a top form Murray. And he had 1 day less to recover.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
By the way Nadal played Fed in that SF.

Novak played a brutal SF against a top form Murray. And he had 1 day less to recover.
Following your logic Federer lost to a subpar Nadal in the AO 2009 final because Nadal came from a 5 sets brutal SF with Verdasco and had one less day to rest.
 

beard

Legend
I’m thinking whether it would be better for Federer to withdraw to preserve the h2h a bit AND to try breaking Djokovic’s tournament rythm. If Federer withdraws, Djokovic will have 4 full days off before the final, and we know from USO 2016 that getting walkovers is not necessary a good thing.

@HetTheGreaterer what you think?
RG11 too?
 
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