@pcplum I must say it looks like @robyrolfo won that debate. He provided plethora of facts-based arguments to refute each and every one of your excellent 5 points. We should all learn from @robyrolfo on how to win an argument.
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tennis4me
Hall of Fame
I know, almost no one watches doubles here. Nothing else to watch, though.
The #2 seed Dabrowski/Routliffe lost 1st set to Muhammad/Parks. Lots of body-aiming smashes and finishing volley poaches from the Muhammad/Parks pair. They're overpowering the #2 seeds in many exchanges. Leading the #2 by a break at 4-2 in 2nd set.
Nothing else to watch, though.The #2 seed Dabrowski/Routliffe lost 1st set to Muhammad/Parks. Lots of body-aiming smashes and finishing volley poaches from the Muhammad/Parks pair. They're overpowering the #2 seeds in many exchanges. Leading the #2 by a break at 4-2 in 2nd set.
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
I know, almost no one watches doubles here.
The #2 seed Dabrowski/Routliffe lost 1st set to Muhammad/Parks. Lots of body-aiming smashes and finishing volley poaches from the Muhammad/Parks pair. They're overpowering the #2 seeds in many exchanges. Leading the #2 by a break at 4-2 in 2nd set.
Thanks bud. Just came back from the gym. You reminded me to turn it on.
robyrolfo
Hall of Fame
I used to agree 100%, but this post retirement announcement Collins seems a little different. Still intense on court, but it seems like a more positive and less nervous intensity. Certainly seems to be helping her game.
And maybe she is more relaxed off the court as well? I definitely know what you mean about the boy toys. There was one guy (used to wear purple and pink shirts) that I'm 99% certain was one of those submissive dudes that likes to be completely controlled by a woman (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Not to split hairs, but being well educated doesn't necessarily make someone nice.
Um, what is the argument you are attempting to make here? That match was 6-0, 6-0 (peak Graf simply destroying someone). The match we saw yesterday was 6-4, 0-6, 7-6. How can you compare the two?
Or, to make it even simpler for you, people here were commenting on the ridiculous 0-6 set from the eventual match winner, in which she won 5 total points.
No, that's the whole thing. She is finally playing her best tennis because she is finally somewhat relaxed. She has said "enough" of the grind, I just want one last year to enjoy it and take it all in... and low and behold, it has helped her game tremendously.
Um yeah, no. Do you really think I should bother responding to some wild mischaracterizations of my actual arguments? Say something serious, and I will say something serious back.@pcplum I must say it looks like @robyrolfo won that debate. He provided plethora of facts-based arguments to refute each and every one of your excellent 5 points. We should all learn from @robyrolfo on how to win an argument.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Saw it on Facebook but apparently after her match Collins opened up about her decision to retire and revealed that “she’s living with a chronic inflammatory disease that is affecting her ability to get pregnant and it’s a deeply personal situation she’s going through right now”. Said she loves competing and the sport but this is so much bigger than playing tennis.
Mad respect to her.
Mad respect to her.
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
I know among other things, she has Rheumatoid Arthritis, which is caused by a messed up immune system. I know. I have a subset of it as my IS is messed up completely from chemo treatment. RA is super hard on a tennis body, can’t imagine how hard it’s be for a world class player like her. And since it’s IS related, I can imagine it’s also affecting the reproductive system. Western medicine can control some symptoms, but Eastern meds and acupuncture are actually better treatments. I’m sure she knows of all that.
spystud
Talk Tennis Guru
That's the same condition Wozniacki suffers from. Apparently she receives an injection every 2 weeks and had to significantly reduce her training intensity and volume.
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
Let’s go Elena.
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Seems like an error fest so far. I’m feeling disappointment!
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
DC wants more noise and animation.
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Needless to say my disappointment wore off quickly- I’m all in it now!
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Come on, Elena! Don’t let her get this break!
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Wow. Have to hand it to Danielle Collins. Super impressive.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
THE DANIMAL SHALL NOT BE DENIED.
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
That’s for sure!Not a big Collins fan but she came to play today
Also agreed!
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
There’s a nice reply from Elena!
ductrung3993
Hall of Fame
hope Elena wins, not that Collins is not already pleasant enough as a person already but she also got paved a path to the final
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
First time I've ever seen a player encouraging her box after every point of the match.
It's usually the other way around.
It's usually the other way around.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Serving for the championship, biggest moment of her career.
First point, Rybakina sails a return long.
Collins, kinda deadpan: "Fu*k yeah!"
The most Danielle Collins moment ever.
God, I love her!
F*CK YEAH DANIMAL, YOU DID IT!
First point, Rybakina sails a return long.
Collins, kinda deadpan: "Fu*k yeah!"
The most Danielle Collins moment ever.
God, I love her!
F*CK YEAH DANIMAL, YOU DID IT!
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Very, very well-deserved. Fight of a lion there! Congrats to Danielle Collins. Rybakina remains my favorite player on the women’s side and hope to see big wins from her the rest of the year.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
Nah... has a 250, a 500 and a 1000. One more missing from the collection.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I will always be a sucker for an older player sneaking in the biggest win of their career close to retirement.
Larry Duff
Legend
Awesome week
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I've read that she's Jekyll and Hyde. She has a non-engaging, non-personable on-court demeanor and has "resting b*tch face," but is actually a likeable, decent person off court, if not overly bubbly friendly.
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austintennis2005
Professional
Rybakina has the personality of a cardboard cutout no passion whatsoever
I love how feisty DC is
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I remember in 1993, Mikael Pernfors came back from injury and randomly won the Canadian Masters - for only his third career title. Sort of similar to this. He had previously won smaller tournaments in LA and Scottsdale in 1988.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
That was the longest winner's speech I've ever seen.
Understandable, given the context, but still.
Understandable, given the context, but still.
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
And he too had randomly reached a slam final...
However, I'm getting flashbacks to 32-year-old Pennetta in 2014 - her career seemingly over, 4 years removed from her last title - coming out of nowhere to win Indian Wells. We know how that ended, hoping Danielle can do the same...
Zardoz7/12
Hall of Fame
Collins should reconsider retirement for a year, this level of play could put her in contention at the US Open if she has a favorable draw.
ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
Disappointed in Rybakina, it can be hard being her fan. Her finals record is abysmal.
Congrats Collins, but I'll never root for you unless you're playing Wozniacki.
Congrats Collins, but I'll never root for you unless you're playing Wozniacki.
