Serena Williams
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Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
No idea what you're talking about but doesn't surprise me you are defending this classless person.
Your hobby is trying to come to the defense of faultless damsels like Sharadoper and now Serena apparently.
Boom-Boom
Legend
Yes he can!
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
good article. The Murray incident is especially relevant. Of course Murray had a little complain about being misheard and got on with it, had that been Serena she'd then explode and make matters worse.
Of course facts won't get in the way of Jean King and others who are dead set on the sexism angle
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
In the 2009 US Open men’s final Roger Federer said
‘Don't tell me to be quiet, OK? When I want to talk, I talk. I don't give a s***’
Resulting in...nothing. Then, having gotten that out of his system, he got up from his chair and broke Del Potro to win the 3rd set.
Serena says the word thief and gets a game penalty. Double standards are 100% there. I hate what she did but the punishment on these things are so poorly handed out.
‘Don't tell me to be quiet, OK? When I want to talk, I talk. I don't give a s***’
Resulting in...nothing. Then, having gotten that out of his system, he got up from his chair and broke Del Potro to win the 3rd set.
Serena says the word thief and gets a game penalty. Double standards are 100% there. I hate what she did but the punishment on these things are so poorly handed out.
Fairhit
Hall of Fame
This thread surely demonstrates the imperious need of a dislike button.
I don't understand why people defend Serena based on the notion that in other games they get away with the same behavior? Is it right to cheat because someone else is cheating and it makes you a victim if you get caught because the other cheaters never get caught?
Ramos did everything right, it doesn't matter if other umpires don't or even if himself doesn't in another game, in this one he performed according to rules, he owes no apologies to anyone.
It's sad that Serena try to rob Osaka from her crowning tennis achievement, from now on it'll be the slam where Serena got into yet another fight with the umpire and not the slam that saw Osaka destroy Williams fair and square.
Another thing, the umpire is not there to ensure there's a good show, or that it's entertaining, he's there to enforce the rules and that's what he did, to blame here is Serena with her childish behavior, not Ramos for not allowing her to try and intimidate him and let her play like she owns the freaking sport, he owes no one a good match, he only owes us and the players a level playing field for both players and that's what he did, if he had let pass the coaching warning or the verbal abuse it would have been against Osaka.
I don't understand why people defend Serena based on the notion that in other games they get away with the same behavior? Is it right to cheat because someone else is cheating and it makes you a victim if you get caught because the other cheaters never get caught?
Ramos did everything right, it doesn't matter if other umpires don't or even if himself doesn't in another game, in this one he performed according to rules, he owes no apologies to anyone.
It's sad that Serena try to rob Osaka from her crowning tennis achievement, from now on it'll be the slam where Serena got into yet another fight with the umpire and not the slam that saw Osaka destroy Williams fair and square.
Another thing, the umpire is not there to ensure there's a good show, or that it's entertaining, he's there to enforce the rules and that's what he did, to blame here is Serena with her childish behavior, not Ramos for not allowing her to try and intimidate him and let her play like she owns the freaking sport, he owes no one a good match, he only owes us and the players a level playing field for both players and that's what he did, if he had let pass the coaching warning or the verbal abuse it would have been against Osaka.
VaporDude95
Banned
A female advocating for violence against a man, just because he held another female accountable for her actions?
Why, I never...
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
You know perfectly well what i was talking about.
You compared the fate of a person protesting black deaths with a guy making umpiring decisions.
You are the only classless person here.
You compared the fate of a person protesting black deaths with a guy making umpiring decisions.
You are the only classless person here.
Lozo1016
Hall of Fame
Except Ramos is the bully in this situation.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Father of Kal-El, give me the apology or you will pay for your defiance.
Maestroesque
Professional
Why would you want on court coaching? doesn't that ruin the whole idea of the sport? You do all your coaching and work out your tactics beforehand and before the match starts, once you're in the game you're on your own and you should figure out how to win yourself. Osaka won fair and square, Serena couldn't figure out her opponent and instead of losing gracefully she decided to try and make it all about herself.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Yeah ignore facts mate, it makes you look clever. He gave a code violation to Murray for saying "stupid umpiring" Now I know Murray second serves like a girl, but he is in fact a man
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
Seriously, coaches gesture and even yell things to players all the time, strange time to start enforcing a rule usually ignored
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
ESPN did not expect that things would turn out the way it did at that time.
ESPN thought they will increase their ratings with that interview and making the topic about Serena's comeback
The interview was before the racket abuse. If they knew the day will turn out the way it did, they would not have interviewed Patrick.
ESPN thought they will increase their ratings with that interview and making the topic about Serena's comeback
The interview was before the racket abuse. If they knew the day will turn out the way it did, they would not have interviewed Patrick.
IowaGuy
Hall of Fame
Do you think it's OK to berate an umpire for several minutes?
RVAtennisaddict
Professional
How can part of your defense be both? It either happens all the time and its unfair that I am being singled out OR I don't do it, ever.
The simple irrationality of arguing both clearly demonstrates her desperation to prove she is right when she is absolutely in the wrong.
The simple irrationality of arguing both clearly demonstrates her desperation to prove she is right when she is absolutely in the wrong.
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Charlie
Guest
No, Serena just embarrassed herself big time, and it left me a bit red faced since as an American I initially wanted her to win and write Grand Slam history. In the end I am glad Ramos decided to not be even a little bit lenient.
SuperSpinner
Semi-Pro
Is the Shriver interview on video? link?
Crisstti
Legend
Hell, not even Roddick would!. Anyone has that video of him asking the umpire if he had given him a code violation, before proceeding to break his racket?.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Once when I was a kid
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
I am not following you there. Hypocrisy is the problem
If that happened Rafa might have hot discussion with an umpire maybe got angry as well but he wouldnt broke his racquet nor call an umpire thief and liar.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
Foot Fault is a S.L. Rule. Coaching is not explaining some of the controversy. And there should never be a S.L. rule I’m which someone other then the player can result in the player losing a point.
How about instead the first time is a warning and a second time the coach must leave the match and watxh from the lounge ?
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Isn't she back in Florida already?
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Where's the insult towards the umpire? I'll wait.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
To be fair the umpire let Delpo to take a forever with those challenges
SuperSpinner
Semi-Pro
Well Roger didn't call the ump any names.
VaporDude95
Banned
Hey I’ve been wondering where you’ve been. Federer got fined to heck after that match, he didn’t smash a racquet and he wasn’t getting coached from the sidelines.
Funny that you failed to point that out. Just don’t let facts get in the way of your whiteknighting.
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Post of the day here btw, just in case
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Deleted member 756486
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If by “bully” you mean doing his job and enforcing the rules.
Serena was being a brat. As usual.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Two wrongs don’t make one right.
George Turner
Hall of Fame
From my experience, showing too much emotion as a guy turns women off. I feel women have a lot of emotional s**t of their own to deal with and too much from a guy is going to be too much for them.
If a boy cries in school he will most likely end up getting bullied, cos they're seen as weak and an easy target. I myself was on the receiving end of that. That sort of thing simply reinforces the notion that "men don't cry." Perhaps it's wrong, but this is how it is.
Yes, yes, yes!!!
If not, it's blatant sexism.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Not to mention that Del Potro did take 20 seconds+ before deciding to challenge several times. Fed had a point, he just didn't express it in the healthiest of ways. And he didn't insult the umpire.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
I see what you're saying. I wasn't making any commentary on Kapernick. I'll rephrase by saying Ramos deserves to be a face in the campaign which happens to include Kapernick. He stood up to a screaming bully and hostile crowd doing what he believed was right. For that he deserves praise.
VaporDude95
Banned
Modern feminism is hypocrisy with pink hair hahaha
Yeah I agree that some male players should get Called out. But I think there is progress evidenced by the Tennis shot clock. A positive step towards curtailing the Time abuses by players. Now if we could lower the volume of the likes of shriekapova. And reinstitute real, good old fashioned sincere hand shakes at the end of the match.
With the way things are going, players will eventually be doing fist pumps.
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
So swearing is ok now? Interesting.
Crisstti
Legend
In fact I think it would be unfair if players NEVER got code violations for coaching, and then suddenly Serena got one. It wouldn't be OK because it wouldn't be an even and fair enforcement of the rules. But that is not the case. Warnings for coaching are issued regularly. No, not every time it happens, but then the umpire cannot be looking at the coach all the time.
stingstang
Professional
Who cares what the mainstream media say, they are so disconnected from normal people it's a joke.
Chicharito
Hall of Fame
Calling the umpire a thief is far worse. Completely attacking his integrity.
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