ATP 2022 Cincinnati Open: Official thread

Who will win?


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jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Exactly. I just watched a quick video of him in a recent match and his game doesn't look anything special. Just looks like a worse version of Alcaraz.
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Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
A catastrophic derailment for Paul. Shapo couldn't win 2 points in a row to save his life until Tommy started spraying errors. Shapo has played much better since the middle of the second, though, but mostly because Paul gave him some breathing room.
The commentary I got on this match from APTTV was awful. For the first set and a half it was non-stop demonizing Shapo, even suggesting that he should go back to challengers but saying what would that change. Then a couple of games of praise and back-tracking, then no commentary for the third set.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Murray makes an utter mess of a couple of bp chances.

Only 2 out of 11 break point chances converted! Not good enough, Andy. Letting all those go ensured that Cam would out-play you in the fitness stakes once the cramps got hold of you again!! :unsure:
 

Krish0608

G.O.A.T.
He beat the world #1 just last week
He matches up well against him. And Med actually played a pretty poor match. Wasn’t close to his best. The moment he plays guys that make him uncomfortable and that he can’t emotionally manipulate, like Hurcakz and Fritz, he’s done. Basically there’s nothing new about Kyrgios. He’s not playing any better this year. He’s just playing utter mugs. The only thing his “run” has proved is that the tour is the worst it’s ever been in a long while. Even Kyrgios was a much better player in 2017, than he is today.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
He matches up well against him. And Med actually played a pretty poor match. Wasn’t close to his best. The moment he plays guys that make him uncomfortable and that he can’t emotionally manipulate, like Hurcakz and Fritz, he’s done. Basically there’s nothing new about Kyrgios. He’s not playing any better this year. He’s just playing utter mugs. The only thing his “run” has proved is that the tour is the worst it’s ever been in a long while. Even Kyrgios was a much better player in 2017, than he is today.

Kyrgios has fitness issues. He was absolutely on against Medvedev. He continues to undercut his training for video games, by his own admission keep in mind.

He was better in 2017 I'll give you that though.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I thought he had the ab injury while serving? That doesn't make any sense to endanger his USOpen chances.
Plus he usually skips Cincy as the surface doesn't suit him.
He often plays Canada and has skipped Cincinnati when he goes deep up north. This year he wasn’t ready with the ab strain and needed the extra week to rehab so he’s back in The Real Slam for the first time since 2017.
 

taylor15

Hall of Fame
Tennisnerd has a closeup on their website that clearly shows 18x20 HD and states he’s on the list to receive the newer 2021 cosmetics sticks before playing USO.

With a father who has pro playing experience, Ben will not deviate from what has gotten him here so any change will be cosmetic only.
Interesting, so is he now sponsored by yonex? He could have been before but assumed he wasn’t without the stencil.

I would be interested to see a match with amount of spin. His forehand was dipping as hard as anyone I’ve ever seen, especially watching court level practice.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Interesting, so is he now sponsored by yonex? He could have been before but assumed he wasn’t without the stencil.

I would be interested to see a match with amount of spin. His forehand was dipping as hard as anyone I’ve ever seen, especially watching court level practice.
Sponsorship may void his amateur status, which he hasn’t abandoned until he decides whether to return to play under his dad at University of Florida.
 

Baseline_Bungle

Hall of Fame
Sponsorship may void his amateur status, which he hasn’t abandoned until he decides whether to return to play under his dad at University of Florida.

Real question is: what does dad do if/when he turns pro? He's been coaching the kid his whole tennis life, I'm sure he'd love to keep doing it at PRO level... At the same time, Bryan doesn't strike me as someone who would nonchalantly walk away from his job, where he happens to be putting together a HOF NCAA coaching career...
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Real question is: what does dad do if/when he turns pro? He's been coaching the kid his whole tennis life, I'm sure he'd love to keep doing it at PRO level... At the same time, Bryan doesn't strike me as someone who would nonchalantly walk away from his job, where he happens to be putting together a HOF NCAA coaching career...
I think he stays on at Gainesville as HC and hand picks the traveling crew to tour with Ben, traveling with his son only when there’s no conflict with the Gator schedule.
 
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Deleted member 791948

Guest
Nadal's serve looks better today than its looked at any event this year, and that was the only thing stopping him from winning the US Open, his stomach injury/serve. A+++ serving today :happydevil:
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
Something tells me FAA may not have such an easy time with young Jannik tomorrow as he did in Madrid.

Who do you have, and in how many sets? I am going with Sinner in 3.
 
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Deleted member 791948

Guest
We are very lucky that Nadal lost to Coric, because if Nadal had won, he'd be playing too much tennis in the space of 2 days, after 6 weeks off.
He's shaken off the rust, and avoided injury, the perfect preparation for USO :happydevil:
 

SeeingDusk

Hall of Fame
what's up with so many people choking from up breaks?

alcaraz was up a set and double break last week and lost to tommy paul.
paul was up a set and double break 4-1, serving for 5-1 and lost to shapo today.
tiafoe was up a break in 3rd set today and lost to korda.
 

Baseline_Bungle

Hall of Fame
what's up with so many people choking from up breaks?

alcaraz was up a set and double break last week and lost to tommy paul.
paul was up a set and double break 4-1, serving for 5-1 and lost to shapo today.
tiafoe was up a break in 3rd set today and lost to korda.

You forgot the mightiest of all: Foe's mega-choke vs Fritz in MTL.

And Korda was about to choke it right back tonight, missing endless MPs including one on an elementary high volley into the wide-open court. Clearly he was battling the ghosts of his own previous collapse vs Tiafoe in Estoril - which easily remains the frontrunner for Choke of the Year.
 
Surprised about Nadal's loss but also not at the same time. He didn't really look that great.

I think when it comes to the Big 2 it's just surprising when they lose in a general sense. That's the kind of legacy and aura they've built (as with Federer back in the day).
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
Did not see Coric winning against Nadal today. Great result for him, though. Maybe he's finally (sort of) back, we'll see more of him at a higher level.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Did not see Coric winning against Nadal today. Great result for him, though. Maybe he's finally (sort of) back, we'll see more of him at a higher level.
He was bringing big cheese on the serve so I think he’s no longer timid about swinging big with that repaired shoulder. Other than that, he still had some holes to mend, right up to the last 15 minutes of the match. Too many groundies buried in the net when pressured.
 

BGod

G.O.A.T.
Kyrgios a ‘serious contender’ at the USO :-D:laughing::cautious:

He's 4th in odds at 7-1. He was 11/12 but after beating Medvedev they shot up and the Hurkacz/Fritz losses seem to be ignored due to fatigue.

Something tells me FAA may not have such an easy time with young Jannik tomorrow as he did in Madrid.

Who do you have, and in how many sets? I am going with Sinner in 3.

I think Felix wins though could be tight 3 sets.

Pretty much I chalk it up to Felix losing early in Canada wanting a bounce back and Sinner playing more matches nearly losing to Kok and struggling with Kecmanovic until he pulled something. They are pretty well even though.
 
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Vamos Rafa Nadal

Guest
I am rooting for Fritz over Rublev, Shapo over Medvedev, Schwartzman over Tsitsipas, Coric over Bautista Agut, Isner over Korda, Shelton or Norrie, Auger-Aliassime over Sinner, and ALCARAZ over everybody! :) :) :)

I tend to root for underdogs. I do like Medvedev but I would prefer for Shapo to win today. So long as my Carlitos wins all will be forgiven as far as other matches are concerned! (;
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
I am rooting for Fritz over Rublev, Shapo over Medvedev, Schwartzman over Tsitsipas, Coric over Bautista Agut, Isner over Korda, Shelton or Norrie, Auger-Aliassime over Sinner, and ALCARAZ over everybody! :) :) :)

I tend to root for underdogs. I do like Medvedev but I would prefer for Shapo to win today. So long as my Carlitos wins all will be forgiven as far as other matches are concerned! (;
What did you think of Nadal’s loss?
 
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Vamos Rafa Nadal

Guest
What did you think of Nadal’s loss?
I really like Coric and thought they both played really well! Super happy for Borna! :) Each set came down to just a few poorly played points and it was a match that really could have gone either way. I was glad that it wasn't "rust" that was the reason for Rafa's loss; he still played very well!
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Did not see Coric winning against Nadal today. Great result for him, though. Maybe he's finally (sort of) back, we'll see more of him at a higher level.
I don't think anybody did, but Nadal didn't really bring his best stuff (or maybe even his average game).

With that said, Coric took care of business which for most mugs is still a big ask. Served effectively, and backhand crosscourt was absolutely money.
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
I don't think anybody did, but Nadal didn't really bring his best stuff (or maybe even his average game).

With that said, Coric took care of business which for most mugs is still a big ask. Served effectively, and backhand crosscourt was absolutely money.
Coric is a bit of a "big match" player, kind of like a Kyrgios. Decent H2H against all the big players except Djokovic really. But yet to break into the top 10.

3-2 Medvedev
3-2 Nadal
3-3 Zverev
2-2 Murray
1-1 Del Potro
1-1 Tsitsipas
2-3 Thiem
2-4 Federer
1-3 Wawrinka
0-4 Djokovic
0-8 Cilic (weirdly)
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Rublev had a great look for 5-0 in the breaker but backhand down the line was slightly wide.

Still has double mini break though, 5-1 now.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Squashed the fightback from Fritz. Fritz got one of the minis back and held his service points, but Rublev came up with two great first serves to close out the set 7-4 in the breaker.
 
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