PeoplesChamp
Legend
It's so hilarious when Fed haters are mad that Fed fans aren't mad LOL
2020 Australian Open SF: Novak Djokovic [2] vs Roger Federer [3]
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UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
Djokovic played the first set like a challenger mug and Fed had the set on his racquet but still blew it. Unbelievable!
The second and the third sets were good from Djoko but not great and Fed seemed not 100%. I think one of Zverev/Thiem wins his maiden Slam title on Sunday.
The second and the third sets were good from Djoko but not great and Fed seemed not 100%. I think one of Zverev/Thiem wins his maiden Slam title on Sunday.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
I don’t give them much of a chance but who do you see as a better opponent? Thiem has beaten novak but that was on clay.
Forehanderer
Professional
And 2017Condolences to all Fed fans. We had a nice 2018
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
Fat chance. This court was build for novak.
joekapa
Legend
He has been nicer to Fed, than Fed has EVER been to him.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Novak has this.
TheAssassin
Legend
In the first set, he lured his opponent into his tiebreaking web.
In the second set, he broke for the set, in a game when Fed made 7/8 first serves.
In the third set, he broke from 40-15, paying tribute to their previous Slam meeting.
The birthday present is definitely not too bad. Now, for the usual belated gift, I would like a win in the final. Again, no pressure Novak.
In the second set, he broke for the set, in a game when Fed made 7/8 first serves.
In the third set, he broke from 40-15, paying tribute to their previous Slam meeting.
The birthday present is definitely not too bad. Now, for the usual belated gift, I would like a win in the final. Again, no pressure Novak.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Roger would crush novak if he plays like that. that was just dumb mental error that caused the loss. I was worried he may not be able to produce that tennis again but in this aussie open, he proved that he still can. so he can win Wimbledon again. It is pretty obvious.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
You said they wouldn't have the mental strength to beat him in a final - I just wanted to point out that they had done it before. I don't think it would come down to mental issues in the final, at least for Thiem who has been in two GS finals before. With Zverev it is uncharted territory, so you never know, but again he actually has a pretty good record at holding his nerves in big situations.
Of course, they also need to bring the game to beat Novak, no matter their mental strength. IMO, Djokovic is the clear favourite, and the conditions are pretty much perfect for him. But it's not a foregone conclusion, and I don't think it will be as one-sided as last year's final; would be a little surprised if it's over in straight sets. But we'll see!
Forehanderer
Professional
Well played Novak. Get well Roger. Maybe skip the clay season and head straight to grass. Wimbledon is probably the best chance for Roger
Djokovic' level should get lower, he should decline a bit before Federer can do Anything against him in Slams. He solved Nadal but Nadal' decline played part there. No such case here. Year after year passed and you still find Djoko is basically Same player. He is the one who has declined least among three.
V
Vamos Rafa Nadal
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Relieved. I would have been really unhappy if Federer had won mostly because he has not played well this tournament. I want Thiem or Zverev to win but I know how tough that will be. Just glad to wake up and see that I was right and Djokovic won in 3 fairly easy sets (I guess the first set was close).
World Beater
Hall of Fame
this wasn't a winnable match anyway for Federer.
he couldn't get down low on many running forehands and was arming that shot.
Djokovic is obv much better than fed today, but the more interesting question is --> who is better djok at 33 or fed at 33
we will know the answer to that soon.
there is an argument to be made though that novak is better on big pts over their careers.
of course if novak cant convert against in the finals...then its kinda silly. a win over fed at 38 is not much consolation for djok's legacy.
he couldn't get down low on many running forehands and was arming that shot.
Djokovic is obv much better than fed today, but the more interesting question is --> who is better djok at 33 or fed at 33
we will know the answer to that soon.
there is an argument to be made though that novak is better on big pts over their careers.
of course if novak cant convert against in the finals...then its kinda silly. a win over fed at 38 is not much consolation for djok's legacy.
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Federer should meditate. The Guru Djokovic should show him the secret benefits of meditation.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
This next generation has failed time and time again when it counts especially in finals against the likes of the champions. My money’s on novak.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
I don't really know tbh. Thiem has been in a GS final, and beat Djokovic in a great match at the WTF, also took out Zverev of course in the semis. Zverev beat Djokovic in two finals. The h2h records are identical propertions (3-2 v Zverev versus 6-4 v Thiem), although Dominic's win all came on clay until the WTF.
So I guess - whoever is in better form, and therefore maybe whoever wins the semi?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
All for the best. Nadal vs Novak match would have been boring beat down. now it is possibly Thiem vs Novak. that could be really exciting good match close 5 setter with Dominator winning his first major
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
3 of those on clay. I don’t trust thiem on surface that’s not clay in a big spot.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
The Guru
Legend
Thiem scares me big time. Only one of those matches was on hard, however, and Djokovic almost won in WTF despite his poor form so I think he's still a deserved favorite.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
No lol. 40-15 was for a slam. On serve. You need one point. Literally as close as you can get to winning a slam without doing it.
If this was 4 1 in the fifth sure. Only the first. Djokovic was going to right the ship regardless.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Novak is the heavy favorite for sure.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Slow start from Djokovic & Federer battery was at 0% after 5-3 but the outcome was never in doubt Federer can now rest and recover from his injury
powerangle
Legend
Major props to Roger for playing and fighting as well as he did given his physical state. As a Novak fan, obviously I'm happy he won, but respect to ol Rog' for putting up the showing he did. He pushed Novak hard in that first set and he had him on the ropes for sure. Hope whatever niggling injury for Roger goes away quickly. I want all the players to be healthy and play their best as often as possible.
Good luck in the final, Novak. You'll need it if you don't raise your level from today. That first set was a mess before the TB.
Good luck in the final, Novak. You'll need it if you don't raise your level from today. That first set was a mess before the TB.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
At least they keep coming, and they also keep improving. It will happen eventually. Remember how many GS finals Murray lost against the Big 3, until he finally made the breakthrough?
I'm never going to count Novak out, he is a great champion and he is obviously the favourite here. But Zverev beat him in the ATP WTF final 2018, which is a big occasion. He is not the youngest anymore, he can have his off days too. Whoever plays him in the final will have their chances - unless Djokovic is having one of THOSE days.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
He pretty much knew it was a wrap after losing that first set.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
3 of them went to distance
powerangle
Legend
Guessing you haven't watched much tennis.
Let's say it another way: there has never, ever been a time when 3 ageing players (legends) have been concurrently playing and anywhere near as dominant, which completely changes perspectives on new generations.
Let's add up Emerson (12), Laver (11), Borg (11), Tilden (10), Perry (8), Rosewall (8)... and with positions 4 through 9 on the all-time list, we finally get more slams than the current Big 3 - who aren't finished.
Put it another way, add up some more "common other legends - let's leave out some lesser-talked about": Laver, Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Connors, Lendl... there's 6 unquestionable legends of the sport, who have 56 slams against the 55 of the current Big 3 - who are still playing and adding to the total.
So, so wrong to be saying that the players following them are rubbish just because the players leading are of a concurrent quality of which we've never seen.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
That actually can bode well for Dominic.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
Could it also be imo that he is most suited for the conditions we currently have? Also a shame fed couldnt meet novak in 2017
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Correction 2 matches went to distance the madrid match was a close 2 setter win from Djokovic
Breakpointerer
Legend
Come on lol. Djokovic was going to win even if Fed took the first set, he wasn't going to be playing like that the whole match.
wangs78
Legend
I’m amazed by the critical comments against Fed in this thread. The guy is 38, is injured and probably pumped full of meds to numb the pain and was probably on the physio’s table for hours leading up into the match. He did all we could hope for - which is give his all and he came close to having a shot to win set 1 which as we all know could have changed the tone of the match. Not saying winning set 1 would have won the entire match but he could have been competitive. But not surprisingly after set 1 he faded Bc of his hurt body and Bc Djokovic is A great player and number 1 and at 32 much much fresher. Anyway kudos to fed for showing up knowing he was likely going to lose but giving the fans something to enjoy. Kudos to Djokovic for making it to another final. And good luck to Thiem and Zverev, one of them will have a chance to challenge for the title!
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Novak is still not 38. Fed was just as good as Djokodal at their age but had actual competition.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Happy birthday mate.In the first set, he lured his opponent into his tiebreaking web.
In the second set, he broke for the set, in a game when Fed made 7/8 first serves.
In the third set, he broke from 40-15, paying tribute to their previous Slam meeting.
The birthday present is definitely not too bad. Now, for the usual belated gift, I would like a win in the final. Again, no pressure Novak.
It'd be a belated present for me too as my birthday's tomorrow.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Duh.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
He needs to retire although he still pretty much makes runs at GSs so he still making money. Cashing in more.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I don't trust Thiem in a big final against an opponent who isn't 37-38.
jackdaw
Rookie
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
That won’t matter. If the next generation doesn’t step up this guy might win 22 slams. Novak with a couple of more Wimbledons and Us opens and he will surpass Federer.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Especially when Djokovic is now serving like a servebot. And Thiem is not the best returner in the world, not even close.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
Lol apparently fed gave himself 3% chance to win this match
I don’t know. It wasn’t winnable on normal terms like fitness etc. But Djokovic admitted how nervous he was when he was down 1-4, and it was also visible. If he had lost the 1st set, there is a possibility that it would have continued the same way. That’s why I’m a bit frustrated now.
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icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
Lol i mean overall its still those two at slams.
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