JeMar
Legend
He won't take a time-out tomorrow. The London crowd likes him, but I'm sure they'll turn against him if they feel he's up to shady things. Murray makes them crazy and I wouldn't be surprised if they turned hostile.
Rafael Nadal vs. Andy Murray Wimbledon Semifinals
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He won't take a time-out tomorrow. The London crowd likes him, but I'm sure they'll turn against him if they feel he's up to shady things. Murray makes them crazy and I wouldn't be surprised if they turned hostile.
CDestroyer
Professional
What? Nadal has taken MTO ALREADY in the tournament. And the majority of the crowd will be pulling for MURRAY.
Anyone else agree?
zagor
Bionic Poster
I have the impression that the British crowd likes Nadal quite a lot, the majority of the crowd will be for Muzza of course but I doubt they're gonna be hostile to Nadal or anything like that(they're gonna applaud his great shots).
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Nadal is the most popular player with the Wimbledon crowd (apart from Murray).
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
I wonder what (if any) psychological impact the first SF's result will have in this match?
I do feel that Rafael will play even better if JWT wins the first SF (however unlikely that is).
If the Djoker wins (expected outcome), Nadal may be a little tight, I'm guessing.
I do feel that Rafael will play even better if JWT wins the first SF (however unlikely that is).
If the Djoker wins (expected outcome), Nadal may be a little tight, I'm guessing.
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
Playing at Wimbledon is really a home court disadvantage for Murray. Too much pressure for him to handle.
Ico
Hall of Fame
I'm not so sure.
ESPN quote:
Andy Murray is in danger of being short of 100% fitness for his Wimbledon semi-final showdown with Rafael Nadal, having picked up a hip problem.
Following his straight-sets dismissal of Feliciano Lopez in the quarters on Wednesday, Murray revealed that he will be undergoing treatment on the problem area.
Nadal has already had to deal with injury concerns, picking up a foot complaint in his fourth-round match with Juan Martin del Potro. MRI scans showed no serious issue, and Nadal's movement did not look inhibited during his last-eight win over Mardy Fish.
"I'm a little bit sore at the top of my hip, but I'm still moving OK," Murray said. "I'll have a better idea of how it is in the morning [on Thursday]."
It sounds like Murray's injury could be more disabilitating than Nadals.
Thought Murray was looking in great form. Shame if this spoils what could have been a fantastic match.
Any news on the Murray Hip Flexor situation?
No news as far as I'm aware, but I imagine he'll take some anti-inflammatories and maybe some painkillers and be OK. This looked less serious than that ankle injury during RG, and he managed to push through that fine.
ark_28
Legend
As a Nadal fan I was lucky enough to be at this match 12 months ago and as has been mentioned although it was straight sets it felt a hell of a lot closer!
I am expecting a tight match Murray has been solid and has the crowd support!
But what fills me with confidence is when I look at their last 2 Semi Finals in majors, close as they have been Rafa has still won in straight sets by virtue of winning the big points!
So from Murray's point of view this makes the task of having to win 3 sets against Rafa a VERY daunting one, not impossible but very tough!
I think Murray will win a set and if its the first it will be a tight match but either way I think Rafa will be just too strong on the big points and win in 4 sets
I am expecting a tight match Murray has been solid and has the crowd support!
But what fills me with confidence is when I look at their last 2 Semi Finals in majors, close as they have been Rafa has still won in straight sets by virtue of winning the big points!
So from Murray's point of view this makes the task of having to win 3 sets against Rafa a VERY daunting one, not impossible but very tough!
I think Murray will win a set and if its the first it will be a tight match but either way I think Rafa will be just too strong on the big points and win in 4 sets
Ark, it's funny, because what makes you see this as an especially daunting task for Murray is what makes me see it as a matter of only a slight adjustment... something that could be accomplished quietly and quickly, without anyone noticing until it's too late. When it's only the big points that make the difference, the outcome of the match stands on the edge of a knife. When one learns to hold his ground in those moments and apply pressure, to grab his chances rather than thinking about the worst case scenario, suddenly the match could tip entirely in an unexpected direction.
Will that adjustment happen here, or ever? Who knows.
Outbeyond
Legend
completely agree. they're in it for the tennis, after all.
Slice&Smash
Rookie
I'm afraid Murray's best chance was in 09.
He shouldn't have lost that match to Roddick.
Nadal in 3 close sets.
He shouldn't have lost that match to Roddick.
Nadal in 3 close sets.
Slice&Smash
Rookie
Absolutely. The English crowd are well known for their love of Butt picking.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Most matches between top players do come down to big points, that's nothing new, I doubt either of these guys is gonna blow away the other one.
Where I see Murray's chance is his 1st serve and his ROS, if he serves out of his skin(say 65+% 1st serves in)and returns the majority of Nadal's serves(which as good as Nadal's serve is at the moment is certainly possible for Muzza given his terrific ROS) that will put tremendous amount of pressure on Nadal.
However if he gives Nadal too many looks at his 2nd serve then I'm afraid Muzza is toast.
stingstang
Professional
Nadal in 3 tight sets, murray will waste a few set points.
tennis_fan_182
Banned
Just no. Those 'big points' are the difference between a champion and a loser. A match could all boil down to ONE break point or something - and the person who played it well is a champion - the person who choked it away is a LOSER. If the loser wins many more overall points than the winner - the loser is still nowhere close to the tennis playing level of the winner.
Although on the surface it looks like a mere one point, the truth is that the mental strength required to play that point well (Nadal) vs. choking it (Murray) is literally a UNIVERSE apart. Give Nadal a point like that, Nadal wins it 10 times out of 10, Murray 0 times out of 10.
That's something you're born with (ability to play big points well). You can't acquire it no matter how much training you have. That's why Murray will ALWAYS lose to Nadal in a slam.
Zildite
Hall of Fame
Interestingly Murray served at 73% in the first set vs Nadal in 2010 (that must be pretty close to his maximum potential considering his average %) and lost 6-4. Maybe he just had one bad game and paid for it, can't remember. Then he served at 66% in the 2nd and lost in a TB.
He seemed to have trouble returning Nadals serve quite a few times, seemed to miss returns more than usual. Andy was only 1/3 on bp for the match. Nadal was 3/4.
Sarzy
Hall of Fame
But Murray HAS beaten Nadal in a slam... Not Wimbledon no, but on the hard courts.
I'm with you all the way until you say you can't acquire it, also you're insulting to murray saying he'd never win a big point, he's done it before, just not to win a slam. Also, Murray has beaten Nadal what twice in slams?
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
LOL. Sue Barker was banging about Nadal needing to step up.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
How many times do you need to be told that Murray has ALREADY beaten Nadal in TWO Slams!!!
Can't you try and get at least one or two facts right amidst all the rubbish you insist on posting??? :twisted:
Clarky21
Banned
Well,with Djokovic through to the final,and Murray through to the final,they may as well just hand the trophy over to Djokovic now since Murray does jack all in slam finals. Even if Nadal made the final(he won't),he would get smoked by Djokovic anyway. Novak no good on grass? Bs.
romeo8880
G.O.A.T.
tennis_fan_182
Banned
I said he WILL always lose in a slams. As in, from now on he will ALWAYS lose to Nadal in slams.
Clarky21
Banned
Yes. I watch tennis. Do you watch tennis? Murray has played much better at Wimbledon this year than Rafa has. How do you come to the conclusion that Rafa would beat Murray today given the way the two of them have been playing? Murray will win easily today.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
And you know this for certain.....how??? Given that Murray has already proved he can beat Nadal in slams!
rainingaces
Legend
This should be closer then last year at least.
fedhingis515
Semi-Pro
Will this match be shown live on NBC?
Clarky21
Banned
He will be fine. Andy has been playing great tennis lately,and should win this one easily. Nadal has not played that great,so he won't come anywhere near winning this one.
Crayola Oblongata
Hall of Fame
Damn, how tall is Rafa's sister?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
How are u guys watching? My stream is on commercials....
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