2021 Wimbledon QF: (6) Roger Federer SUI vs (14) Hubert Hurkacz POL
abmk
Bionic Poster
he shouldn't have had to win 23 slams to stay ahead in the race if not for 2 gens of useless in slams (worst gen and young gen so far atleast) - weakest period in open era from 15-current.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
You can’t blame it all on age. Novak has won close matches against players younger than him. For example Tsitsipas at french final. A 12 year difference in age but it was Novak who was the stronger physically and mentally in the 5th set.
egrorian
Rookie
Sad to see and really it does look all over for Roger. Hurkacz was quite solid but overall nothing special but was a horrible match by Federer. True, I thought when he lost to Robredo and Millman at the US Open that was the end and he came back from those losses (albeit at almost 40 it seems unlikely he can do so again to the point of seriously contending to win another major title).
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Stop making excuses. Feds had his chances to win more. If he gets past in the race than just accept it and praise Djokovic and Nadal.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Holy moly, a bagel in the 3rd. That's what, his 5th of his career? Three before 2000 and 08 FO
abmk
Bionic Poster
that's because young gen sucks in slams till now - just as badly as worst gen, if not worse. Tpas couldn't even close it out from 2 sets to love up, not even a BP in the last 3 sets.
Bring in Wim 15 final Djoko or USO 15 final Djoko. 2021 Djoko loses to either. That's whom fed was losing to when playing well in slams in 15. Heck AO 16 fed wins AO 21 in place of Djokovic.
No one at Roddick-Hewitt-Murray-Safin-Wawrinka level currently among young players, let alone prime ATG level.
Its not all on age, but it is the most significant factor.
Federer also dominated Rao-Dimi-Nishi gen FTR.
the worst gen and young gen in slams being just as bad is reality.
If Nadal/Djokovic achieve more, they achieve more. Doesn't mean above isn't real.
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uscwang
Hall of Fame
The volley that lost Fed the match... And it was so beautifully played up to that final shot
This slip looked dangerous. I hope his knees are ok.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Bagel was payback for Fed's despicable and disrespectful attitude at RG. Teaches a good lesson about treating slams as practice sessions.
I hope all other players got that memo.
On the bright side, Fed is cementing his reputation as the MOAT (Most Overrated of All Time). Well done
I hope all other players got that memo.
On the bright side, Fed is cementing his reputation as the MOAT (Most Overrated of All Time). Well done
Omega_7000
Legend
The loud cheering when Djokovic eventually starts losing everywhere will be glorious too
abmk
Bionic Poster
Bagel was payback for Fed's despicable and disrespectful attitude at RG. Teaches a good lesson about treating slams as practice sessions.
I hope all other players got that memo.
On the bright side, Fed is cementing his reputation as the MOAT (Most Overrated of All Time). Well done
bwhaha, rich coming after your guy actually skipped Wimbledon without any injury.
You still haven't given up your claim as hypocrisy queen, have you?
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Wow, in his press conference he was awesome with his honesty, perspective and matter of factness. I admire that! I don’t see him as coming across deflated, I just see a man whose ego is in balance, which most people don’t associate with Federer but it’s how he comes across lately to me.
LOL! 39 years old played a few matches in two years and made quarters of Wimbledon. The real question here is, what is wrong with most of the other, younger tennis players not named Nadal and Djokovic.
In my book, this is impressive.
VashTheStampede
Professional
I wasn’t able to see the match but commiseration to Federer fans. He’s still an 8-time Wimbledon champion and a loss here at almost 40 doesn’t take away from that.
Omega_7000
Legend
Bagel was payback for Fed's despicable and disrespectful attitude at RG. Teaches a good lesson about treating slams as practice sessions.
I hope all other players got that memo.
On the bright side, Fed is cementing his reputation as the MOAT (Most Overrated of All Time). Well done
Oh look who's back from the cave.
90% of the tour would take a QF result at Wimb if it meant treating RG as a practice session.
100% of the tour would take a QF result at Wimb if it meant treating RG as a practice session at the age of 39.
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Mainad
Bionic Poster
beard
Legend
I don't see much mocking here... Only few, and often triggered by some Fed fans...
Me personally am happy Fed lost, happy for bagel, but deeply inside sad a bit, great career is ending slowly (on the other hand I'm little scared Fed will come batto slam winning form)...
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
When was the last time Federer got bagel?
Omega_7000
Legend
Bagel was payback for Fed's despicable and disrespectful attitude at RG. Teaches a good lesson about treating slams as practice sessions.
I hope all other players got that memo.
On the bright side, Fed is cementing his reputation as the MOAT (Most Overrated of All Time). Well done
I see you dropped Nadal like a hot potato now that he is going to be surpassed by Djokovic. Like a typical bandwagon jumping, glory hunting lowlife that you are!
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Totally wrong from Nadal as well. And Osaka, since we're at it. Time to stop indulging the diva attitude and stop that hideous trend of cherry picking events played, out of greedy calculations and hubris, especially when it comes to slams.bwhaha, rich coming after your guy actually skipped Wimbledon without any injury.
You still haven't given up your claim as hypocrisy queen, have you?
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Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
RF stunked in the 3rd set and deserve to loose!
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Nadal is still the clay GOAT though. Better than being the MOAT (Most Overrated of ALL Time)
onyxrose81
Hall of Fame
I thought Hubi would have been too overwhelmed to see it through but he proved me wrong. Good on him.
Fed will survive. He has those 20 slams to comfort him.
Fed will survive. He has those 20 slams to comfort him.
Rago
Hall of Fame
Did you not watch the tie break?RF stucked in the 3rd set and deserve to loose!
coupergear
Professional
I don't know hes still not that far away. hard to say. if he can clean up his ground strokes he wins this match easy. on the other hand I do feel like a lot of the reason he is shanking is because his movement isn't quite as good so he's not getting to the balls quite in time or he's off balance or rushed when sets up his shot. That movement isn't going to improve. Also just not a good serving day for him and in order to win he needs to be on with his serve. I could still see him competing coming back next year on grass if he is able to stay healthy--long odds but with a perfect draw and setup could take it. The question is does he want to continue to put the work in and grind the tour.
coupergear
Professional
Agree.
He used to laugh his way to the bank, now he'll have to cry his way to the bank.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
RF stucked in the 3rd set and deserve to loose!
Legend has it he's still on court. Permanently stucked.
D
Deleted member 774223
Guest
I am sure it will. Though who knows how high will Djokovic climb by then...
Omega_7000
Legend
Nadal is still the clay GOAT though. Better than being the MOAT (Most Overrated of ALL Time)
Djokovis is indeed the MOAT....
Fed would've won 30 slams if Djokodal were 5/6 years older than him and he had to deal with a younger generation consisting of Dimitrov, Raonic, Nishikori etc.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
It's the other way around. If Djokodal had hit their prime before Fed, Fed would have been lucky to stick around as the 3rd wheel, Murray style, which is fair because Fed is the least impressive of the big 3, but never happened just because Fed predated the other 2.
Omega_7000
Legend
Keep dreaming...Fed started struggling against Djokovic after he broke all tennis records and was past his prime with a drop in motivation. Fed is outperforming Murray at 39 and has always dominated him but he will be at the same level as Murray? LMAO. Stop smoking and get back to reality.
He would've whopped Djokovic and would've figured out Nadal earlier with an age advantageof 5 to 6 years with a transition to a bigger racquet earlier. I'll give Nadal multiple slams on clay but he would be nowhere anywhere near 20 slams. He would end up with RG's only and Djokovic would be left mimicking other tennis players like the clown he is.
Djokodal have been very lucky to not have any ATG's for three generations following them. Hell Fed is eons better than Raonic and company at 39. He would have been dominating and cleaning house like there is no tomorrow. 30 slams minimum.
Carax
Hall of Fame
It would be interesting if they can keep that same level when they face Djokovic.
brinkeguthrie
Hall of Fame
yeah, 20 slams, overrated. Right.Bagel was payback for Fed's despicable and disrespectful attitude at RG. Teaches a good lesson about treating slams as practice sessions.
I hope all other players got that memo.
On the bright side, Fed is cementing his reputation as the MOAT (Most Overrated of All Time). Well done
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V
Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
I was the ONE vote on here who had Hurkarcz winning in 3 sets!!!!! I knew he was going to win! My only surprise was the 3rd set bagel!!!!
the next match is going to be awesome! Usually when a player wins against 2 top 10 players in a row they lose the third one but I don't know which way the semi is going to go! It ought to be an exciting match!
the next match is going to be awesome! Usually when a player wins against 2 top 10 players in a row they lose the third one but I don't know which way the semi is going to go! It ought to be an exciting match!
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
You guys being tough on Fed. He could've easily lost to Mannarino in the 1st round. HH was excellent today. He has a good game for grass. He's not some nobody. I watched his match with Med and he's got great movement for 6'5, big groundies and a big serve. He and Berretini are going to give Joker a tougher challenge than Fed ever could at 40.
flyingboris
Legend
All of this is true, but it was still pretty disheartening to see Fed in position time and time again, and then hitting some awful UE. Let's hope he's got a couple more resurgences in him.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
3rd was 0-6, a bagel for the so called GOAT - RF!
Technology Ruined Tennis
Hall of Fame
Never thought I would see the Seppi tiebreaker get overtaken.
That was muggery of the highest order.
O well...
That was muggery of the highest order.
O well...
Enjoy, these are once in a lifetime odds. You are a legend now.
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Deleted member 629564
Guest
They should assign here on forum the special badges for this type of achievement.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
I just cannot deal with tennis media... How about showing the guy who won the match, for a change?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Seriously, stop comparing Novak's young guys with Fed's. Night and day difference.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Will karma hit Nadal for his distespectful attituse towards Wimb?Bagel was payback for Fed's despicable and disrespectful attitude at RG. Teaches a good lesson about treating slams as practice sessions.
I hope all other players got that memo.
On the bright side, Fed is cementing his reputation as the MOAT (Most Overrated of All Time). Well done
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G.O.A.T.
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G.O.A.T.
Will karma hit Nadal for his distespectful attituse towards Wimb?
You have to remember his perpetual injury status.
mightyjeditribble
Hall of Fame
The QF always looked like the likely place where reality would set in, unless a miracle happened à la 2017 AO ...
With it being Hurkasz rather than Med, I had hoped Fed might squeeze through, or at least make things competitive. He might have done if he had remembered to bring his forehand.
Shame about the bagel, but making the QF at nearly 40 and after two knee surgeries is a good result. Oldest Wimbledon quarterfinalist in the Open Era.
With it being Hurkasz rather than Med, I had hoped Fed might squeeze through, or at least make things competitive. He might have done if he had remembered to bring his forehand.
Shame about the bagel, but making the QF at nearly 40 and after two knee surgeries is a good result. Oldest Wimbledon quarterfinalist in the Open Era.
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