2019 Wimbledon - Women's Singles - General Discussion

[bluetrain4]

It feels like another slam championship for SW. The rest of the women left are weak, inconsistent and each time I take a peek at SW's match she is serving well.
Nobody left can hit her off the court. No Naomi, no Mugs, no Kerber. It is there for her to take.

I'd put money on Serena, and I'm rooting for her, but other players actually can beat her these days. We've seen it happen. Serena isn't invincible for any number of reasons - she gets nervier, she doesn't move as well, etc. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. My wish is for Serena to win a post-baby Slam. The sooner the better, as the chances to do so aren't just going to be automatic for the rest of her career.

 

[chimneysweep]

Idk yet. She wasn’t in shape last year against Kerber.

Kerber is a WAY better grass player than anyone left. Serena would have to play an even worse final than last years vs Kerber (unlikely to even play as bad) to ever lose now.

 

[helixx]

djokosmash

 

[chimneysweep]

I'd put money on Serena, and I'm rooting for her, but other players actually can beat her these days. We've seen it happen. Serena isn't invincible for any number of reasons - she gets nervier, she doesn't move as well, etc. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out. My wish is for Serena to win a post-baby Slam. The sooner the better, as the chances to do so aren't just going to be automatic for the rest of her career.

The players left are rubbish on grass. I mean freaking Halep who blows on grass is her likely final opponent. Serena wont lose now unless she injures herself in a match, and cant finish.

 

[Harry_Wild]

Konta is pretty much out of Wimbledon singles, now! Strycova leading 5-1 in second set!

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Kerber is a WAY better grass player than anyone left. Serena would have to play an even worse final than last years vs Kerber (unlikely to even play as bad) to ever lose now.

Kerber is weird. To lose in the second round is pathetic. She has had so and so grass results. You wanna see consistency.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Sigh, here we go again. Serena buried Riske with NINETEEN Aces.

And yet she was broken 5 or 6 times in that match. When Serena did not hit an ace or service winner, Alison actually fared pretty well against her serve.

 

[chimneysweep]

Kerber is weird. To lose in the second round is pathetic. She has had so and so grass results. You wanna see consistency.

Winning Wimbledon was her final big career goal. She has gone into virtual tank mode since then. She is done IMO.

 

[Harry_Wild]

Strycova wins! moves on with 6-1 win over Konta!

 

[ACE of Hearts]

The players left are rubbish on grass. I mean freaking Halep who blows on grass is her likely final opponent. Serena wont lose now unless she injures herself in a match, and cant finish.

I wouldn’t count my chickens yet. She lost to Kerber last year. In two sets on grass and i know Kerber is decent on grass but i feel serena’s not 100 percent in shape going back to last year.

 

[TheIntrovert]

Shocker of a performance. All credit to Strycova

 

[romeo8880]

I wouldn’t count my chickens yet. She lost to Kerber last year. In two sets on grass and i know Kerber is decent on grass but i feel serena’s not 100 percent in shape going back to last year.

Halep Strycova and Svitolina are the exact type of players that can give Serena trouble.

 

[helixx]

OmG WoMeNs FiElD iS sO dEeP aNd StRoNg

 

[chimneysweep]

Halep Strycova and Svitolina are the exact type of players that can give Serena trouble.

On grass none of those are. Halep on hard courts yes.

Serena at 6/5 odds at this point is a steal. I am going to place 5000$ on her right now.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Terrible performance from Konta. Very disappointing indeed.

 

[FakeEmpire]

Konta imploded. There's nothing more to be said.

But seeing Strycova so happy is heartwarming. The woman has a beautiful game, that translates really well to grass, and a colourful personality. Congrats to her.

 

[ScottleeSV]

That was absolutely pathetic from Konta today. I think we can probably close the door on the notion she could sneak a slam somewhere. If you can't even beat Strycova you might as well not bother. How many errors in the second set there? Utterly woeful.

 

[bluetrain4]

Kudos to Strycova. I like her spunky, varied game.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Winning Wimbledon was her final big career goal. She has gone into virtual tank mode since then. She is done IMO.

Before that she had made a final and a semi and a bunch of disappointing results. She was inconsistent on grass.

 

[Soianka]

Strycova has a cartoonish sounding voice. I didn't expect that.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

To lose 6-1 with all your people watching is embarrassing. Konta mugged it up in that second set.

 

[helixx]

Strycova’s probably last Wimbledon

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Still think other girls have a chance. Not Serena's trophy yet.

 

[Goldie]

If Serena can't win this slam with the easy draw in the history of Wimbledon, she will never break Courts record. Hope Strycova pulls another upset.

 

[bluetrain4]

Again, I think Serena can win, but I'd never just hand her a trophy, even with a relatively opened-up draw, as I might have in the past. She gets more nervous on bigger occasions, her movement isn't as good, so people (especially someone like Halep) can get her on the move and out of position. And, sometimes when people are bashing against her, she feels the need to show she can bash too and she makes errors. That said, she can certainly win. She needs to serve well, and not be reckless when she's out of position - realize she needs to play a percentage defensive shot, not turn defense into offense right away.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Still think other girls have a chance. Not Serena's trophy yet.

People are nuts. This is the not the same Serena from a 2016 and she has lost some finals as well.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Well strycova

 

[DariusD]

I think it's also based on how well Serena is serving. If she can add in tons of aces and keep her first serve percentage up, she can have smooth sailing because the other ladies just don't have an awesome serve that's unbreakable. That's the thing when you manage to break Serena's serve but then have to fend off having your own serve broken.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Again, I think Serena can win, but I'd never just hand her a trophy, even with an relatively opened-up draw as I might have in the past. She gets more nervous on bigger occasions, she her movement isn't as good, so people (especially someone like Halep) can get her on the move and out of position. And, sometimes when people are bashing against her, she feels the need to show she can bash too and she makes errors. That said, she can certainly win. She needs to serve well, and not be reckless when she's out of position - realize she needs to play a percentage defensive shot, not turn defense into offense right away.

We saw her lose Wimbledon and the us open last year. It’s not written in stone yet. Still think she’s not in the best of shape.

 

[I Am Finnish]

After 2353735 attemps elina reachs her first gs sf

 

[helixx]

People are nuts. This is the not the same Serena from a 2016 and she has lost some finals as well.

was it in 2016 when serena won australian open and strycova was the only player who took her into 3 sets? its gonna be interesting

 

[insideguy]

I swear 50 percent of you are nuts. You guys think Serena just walks on court and wins when the women has lost to all kinds of players the last 5 years.

 

[insideguy]

Do you people who proclaim Serena champion prior to actually playing matches even play sports at all?

 

[ScottleeSV]

Not a chance. Strycoca will go into that irritating 'just happy to be here' mode where the underdog is grinning and having a great time even at 3-6 2-5 down as she earns the kudos of the crowd for winning a clever 20 shot rally right at the death, doing the sort of things she couldn't execute to save her life when the score was 0-0.

 

[chimneysweep]

I swear 50 percent of you are nuts. You guys think Serena just walks on court and wins when the women has lost to all kinds of players the last 5 years.

It is not so much confidence in Serena as all the other women left are garbage on grass. None left but Serena is capable of winning Wimbledon. Seriously talking about losing to Kerber last year is pointless when in form Kerber would smoke those other 3 on grass easily.

The people who think Halep and Svitolina are capable of winning Wimbledon on GRASS are the real crazies, not those of who arent stupid.

 

[romeo8880]

If Serena’s serve isn’t on she is going to lose.

 

[upchuck]

It's amazing the negativity a few pages back towards Serena, a 37-year-old hobbled much of this year with a chronic knee injury but who is fighting her way through the draw while her younger peers have fallen. She should be applauded, not denigrated. A younger Serena would be lapping this field up tournament after tournament. She may not be what she used to be, but she's still good enough.

 

[WDC]

I think it's also based on how well Serena is serving. If she can add in tons of aces and keep her first serve percentage up, she can have smooth sailing because the other ladies just don't have an awesome serve that's unbreakable. That's the thing when you manage to break Serena's serve but then have to fend off having your own serve broken.

If she wins it will be based on first serve and second serve return. Strycova served pretty well there she also found ways of getting Konta's back in awkward areas. If she does that again she can win. I expect Halep to come through, if she gets her head on she should take the tournament.

 

[insideguy]

It is not so much confidence in Serena as all the other women left are garbage on grass. None left but Serena is capable of winning Wimbledon. Seriously talking about losing to Kerber last year is pointless when in form Kerber would smoke those other 3 on grass easily.

The people who think Halep and Svitolina are capable of winning Wimbledon on GRASS are the real crazies, not those of who arent stupid.

First of all the grass aint the same. Second of all these ladies in the semis beat good grass players. I don't think most people who comment on the womens game actually watch the freaking game.

 

[WDC]

It's amazing the negativity a few pages back towards Serena, a 37-year-old hobbled much of this year with a chronic knee injury but who is fighting her way through the draw while her younger peers have fallen. She should be applauded, not denigrated. A younger Serena would be lapping this field up tournament after tournament. She may not be what she used to be, but she's still good enough.

Don't go overboard she has certain advantages.

 

[chimneysweep]

Second of all these ladies in the semis beat good grass players.

Speak English please.

And Halep and Svitolina had the epitome of cupcake draws thanks the upsets. Only Strycova has beaten anyone good, and mostly just someone who played like rubbish.

 

[WDC]

To lose 6-1 with all your people watching is embarrassing. Konta mugged it up in that second set.

Not her people really is it. Konta represented Australia until she was 21.

 

[bluetrain4]

Not a chance. Strycoca will go into that irritating 'just happy to be here' mode where the underdog is grinning and having a great time even at 3-6 2-5 down as she earns the kudos of the crowd for winning a clever 20 shot rally right at the death, doing the sort of things she couldn't execute to save her life when the score was 0-0.

This made me laugh, because it's such a spot-on description of something you see if you watch a lot of tennis. I'm not predicting that it defintely will happen to Strycova, but I've certainly seen it before. The underdog might be fully engaged and serious about winning early on, but as soon as they fall behind, it becomes what you describe.

 

[THUNDERVOLLEY]

So @Aussie Darcy , why can’t Riske play anywhere near this level on hard court or clay?

The other day I said Riske is like the American Lisicki--she lives for only one major, and does not really dedicate herself to the others as much. You cannot make a career on only wanting to win a particular major, but that really seems to be her mindset about the sport. Further, Riske is not the best mover on tour, so that will be another advantage for opponents, only she (Riske) does not have the serve, or down the line accuracy of another weak mover such as a Davenport, who had the aforementioned skills to make up for her lack of mobility, and took that to majors success.

 

[bluetrain4]

Do you people who proclaim Serena champion prior to actually playing matches even play sports at all?

it's just normal forum discussion and rantings. Plenty of people who predict/proclaim winners "play sports." Nothing said here can affect who actually wins. Don't take it so seriously.

 

[Peters]

It's interesting how much of tennis is about match-ups, particularly in the women's game.

Strycova's game got into Konta's head and she deservedly won, but Konta would have still had a better chance of beating Serena in the SF in my opinion.

Not too dissimilar to the French Open - I'm convinced Konta would have given Barty a better match in the final than Vondrousova, but like here she struggled against the slower-pace.

I guess that's Konta's weakness; she's never had an "all-round game", she's a fast, rhythmical player with a few specialist shots. On her day she can blow any player off the court, but can get tangled up pretty easily too.

 

[THUNDERVOLLEY]

Kerber is weird. To lose in the second round is pathetic. She has had so and so grass results. You wanna see consistency.

Kerber won a Wimbledon title, so she has excellent "grass results." She did what the sport demanded of her, unlike others who merely build up grass court time and fail to win the Wimbledon title.

 

[upchuck]

Don't go overboard she has certain advantages.

Yes, it's called "talent," and it's remarkable.

 

[WDC]

Speak English please.

And Halep and Svitolina had the epitome of cupcake draws thanks the upsets. Only Strycova has beaten anyone good, and mostly just someone who played like rubbish.

Halep is playing well I think the Azarenka game was a big confidence boost. I can't see her not coming through the semi. She has the potential to do to Williams exactly what Kerber did.

 

[a10best]

. Even a prime Bouchard had an easy time with Halep on grass.

Now, you lost all credibility.