sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Good Lord, I was joking obviously.
Basel 2017 final: Roger Federer vs Juan Martin Del Potro
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Good Lord, I was joking obviously.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
Fraud also fully aware that he just threw a spanner in Delpo's WTF works as he jokes about it in trophy presentation.
oh man, can't help himself
Fed probably would have the ability, unlike Nick, to announce to the crowd he slept with his opponent's wife, and get cheers..including from his opponent
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
sometimes I wonder if you like tennis? You really hate on pretty much everyone safe of Fedal. Goffin is a terrific player. He's just overmatched by Fed and Djoko. Rafa, he can hang with at times.Right. Del Potro (when he's not tired or complaining about another injury) is a tough match-up for all Big Four players which is what you want to see. He's a warrior. Who wants to see players roll-over vs the Big Four like Goffin type players? Not me that's for sure.
Of course, Delpo's in a completely different league.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
That match-up is a stupid one IMO. I don't even watch most Federer-Goffin matches. There's nothing to see there. I like watching competitive matches.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
strange year...will be looked back on a lot decades from now
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Yes, but he skipped the whole clay season this year, which helped him to recover physically and kept his winning % high. He played full seasons in 2004/2005/2006 and still had such high percentage, which is more impressive.
Feather
Legend
It's not a done deal! Roger should play Paris
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't "hate" Goffin but IMO he doesn't have anything to trouble Federer with and I don't have any interest in watching those type of matches. YMMV.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Stop your jinxing attempt. Match isn't over as you know very well. Shame to see you turn into a troll because of Nadal's losses to Federer.
Not everything is about Federer-Nadal. Delpo needed to win this to have a chance to make it to WTF. Now that he's lost the Basel final, fans at the O2 would have to do with a Busta instead of Delpo.
abmk
Bionic Poster
to some degree yes. But he has to bail out weapons in his serve and fh.
and his BH (before 2014)
goffin is more disadvantaged.
And in the end, its obvious that delpo is the clearly better player and also the tougher one.
But even if Goffin were as tough mentally as delpo, he still wouldn't have made that much of a dent vs the big 4, due to the limitations in the game.
underground
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NothingButNet
Semi-Pro
"My best year since '07....and I didn't even have to get my socks dirty. CHUM JETZE!!!!!!
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sbengte
G.O.A.T.
I said Basel, not Wimbledon. As in like this :
Sometimes you do make up for what the FB is missing compared to VB stalwarts like brina and clayqueen
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
that is indeed a great, great pity. As I wrote yesterday, PCB got 720 points from the US by beating 4 qualifiers and Diego Schwartzman. Delpo got the same from beating Agut, Thiem and Federer.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Why do you doubt what he has said all week?Why are you talking as if you are in Federer's head and know what he's going to do?
Why wouldn't he play Paris? That makes no sense.
If you bothered to watch his pressers, he has said every single day this week that Paris is not a priority and he won't decide whether he'll play it until he sees how long the final is. Could he still play, could his statements be merely verbal subterfuge? Sure. I am quoting Fed directly, not feigning as if I'm in his head. Get a grip.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
abmk
Bionic Poster
if it were upto me, I'd still say it depends on how he is feeling.
because he's had 2 tough matches at Basel, including the final.
If he had 3, I'd say probably not go for Paris.
If he had 1, I'd probably say go for Paris.
the optimistic side of me wants him to go for it for #1, the prudent side questions whether it might be a gamble and whether its worth it.
So ultimately its a fine balance and entirely dependent on how he feels.
1st round bye at Paris certainly helps and his draw doesn't look that dificult either.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
fair enough. But reading your poasts often leaves me the impression that everyone but the Big 5 is an unwatchable mug. And Djoko is just plain unwatchable ;-)
YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
Don’t argue with him. It’s pointless, believe me.Why do you doubt what he has said all week?
I am quoting Fed directly, not feigning as if I'm in his head. Get a grip.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
You tell him, Feather
It is a catch 22 now after playing Basel (and unnecessarily taking the final to 3 sets) because he can risk exhaustion for the WTF.
He may have played Paris if this final hadn't gone on for so long, maybe but I doubt it now.
Gary Duane
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I think he WAS lucky to win today, only because he was rattled. It was very obvious when he double-faulted three times in the same game and swatted the net. Delpo was also frustrated.
There comes a point where anyone in the world crumbles from having a bad day. Fed has been amazing all year in TBs, close to 75% coming into this match. Up 3-0 and then losing that TB was a shocker.
To his credit he "won ugly" today.
PA said that he is most nervous at Basel. Maybe we saw some of that.
sbengte
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CC mostly does 'posts' only...
The 'poasts' are done by the likes of bullzie, sureshs, 90'sclay
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I doubt it too. There's also the planned exho vs. Muzz on the 7th that he can't missYou tell him, Feather
It is a catch 22 now after playing Basel (and unnecessarily taking the final to 3 sets) because he can risk exhaustion for the WTF.
He may have played Paris if this final hadn't gone on for so long, maybe but I doubt it now.
Another cheap draw for Rafa it is to vulture some points
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
I doubt it too. There's also the planned exho vs. Muzz on the 7th that he can't miss
Another cheap draw for Rafa it is to vulture some points
WTF ? On Nov 7th ? Are you kidding me ?
Like I said, Federer doesn't deserve no.1 for his brain dead approach to scheduling this year and Nadal deserves it for perfectly optimizing the schedule to vulture.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
It makes a lot of sense if he thinks playing Paris will cut down his chances of winning the WTF.Why are you talking as if you are in Federer's head and know what he's going to do?
Why wouldn't he play Paris? That makes no sense.
I will be just a little surprised if he plays Paris.
underground
G.O.A.T.
IMO we won't hear from Fed till tmr, probably depends on whether he feels good waking up.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Well, he would have been very unlucky to lose today given he won 15 more points and more points in every set, including having more BPs in every set. That said, it was def. close and yes, he was probably nervous.
Feather
Legend
You tell him, Feather
It is a catch 22 now after playing Basel (and unnecessarily taking the final to 3 sets) because he can risk exhaustion for the WTF.
He may have played Paris if this final hadn't gone on for so long, maybe but I doubt it now.
Roger will play.. I don't think so he will skip.
fedtennisphan
Hall of Fame
Goffin is a nice player. There a lot of players that have a lop-sided H2H against top 3 players because what you have to do to beat them. Goffin shouldn’t be singled-out because he has company.
ForumMember
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Charleneriva
Hall of Fame
Waiting for Pizza time:
Would be nice if Delpo joined them this time. I mean, this might be very well their last final there...
Would be nice if Delpo joined them this time. I mean, this might be very well their last final there...
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, but let Federer decide and don't talk like you know what's going on in Federer's head every minute of the day. It's spooky IMO(when I say "you" I don't mean YOU.)
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I'm afraid notWTF ? On Nov 7th ? Are you kidding me ?
Like I said, Federer doesn't deserve no.1 for his brain dead approach to scheduling this year and Nadal deserves it for perfectly optimizing the schedule to vulture.
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abmk
Bionic Poster
quite possible.
underground
G.O.A.T.
I doubt it too. There's also the planned exho vs. Muzz on the 7th that he can't miss
Another cheap draw for Rafa it is to vulture some points
He can just treat it as a practice session and tank the match if needed, after all it is Murray's home ground so he should conceded for exhibitions
ghostofMecir
Legend
Depends how you look at it. Can a player be “lucky”to win when he won more points in EVERY set despite serving poorly against a guy with a big serve? When he won 15 points more overall? Frankly, Delpo was somewhat fortunate he won a set.
abmk
Bionic Poster
oh, come on. He'd be dumb to play that now.
they should re-schedule it if possible.
else fed should skip it.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
In the end it generally just comes down to BPs made. I know that's simplistic, but it's true. Usually the guy who racks up way more opportunities to break will win, but not always.
To be honest I thought Fed was about to lose until the end of the 2nd set. I still think he was confused by the way Delpo was playing.
fedtennisphan
Hall of Fame
They will live, so you can drop your fake concern.
abmk
Bionic Poster
WTF ? On Nov 7th ? Are you kidding me ?
Like I said, Federer doesn't deserve no.1 for his brain dead approach to scheduling this year and Nadal deserves it for perfectly optimizing the schedule to vulture.
exho was planned quite some time ago , I think.
He probably didn't think he'd be in contention for #1 and might have been thinking of skipping Paris.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think we'll be seeing Delpo at the O2 this year. A pity, because he is one of the few players who can beat a well playing Nadal/Federer indoors.
fedtennisphan
Hall of Fame
Ha! Ha! You were hoping Federer was sick. Pathetic.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Whoever is part of strategy and scheduling decisions in Federer's team should be fired.
I mean I can understand Federer wanting to be the sentimental fool picking Basel over Paris and playing dumb exhos instead of trying to get to #1, but what the heck is his team doing ?
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Who are you again?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
There are only certain match-ups and certain players I like to watch and make time for.
Djokovic is definitely not unwatchable but it also depends on which players he's competing against and which tournament it is.
abmk
Bionic Poster
no, he can make it if he mades the Paris SF.
other possible scenarios as well, if PCB bombs out in his first or second match.
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Also, its delpo's fault he didn't play that well in the first half of the year.
Otherwise, would've been in by now.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
Well, lucky in that he clearly was rattled, and even the best player in the world (at any time) can choke on a really bad day.
I think if it had been a quick, easy match, he might have decided to play in Paris. Now I have my doubts.
Think about it: before this match Fed Fans were about to gift him Basel, Paris and the WTF as if #1 at the end of the year is now in the bag.
He's still 36 years old. What he's doing right now can't go on forever.
Charleneriva
Hall of Fame
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