Basel 2017 final: Roger Federer vs Juan Martin Del Potro

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Backspin1183

Backspin1183

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abmk said:
no, he can make it if he mades the Paris SF.
other possible scenarios as well, if PCB bombs out in his first or second match.

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Also, its delpo's fault he didn't play that well in the first half of the year.
Otherwise, would've been in by now.
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That's good news then. I don't think Busta is playing that good right now, another reason why he shouldn't be at WTF ahead of Delpo.
 
sbengte

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abmk

abmk

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sbengte said:
Whoever is part of strategy and scheduling decisions in Federer's team should be fired.t
I mean I can understand Federer wanting to be the sentimental fool picking Basel over Paris and playing dumb exhos instead of trying to get to #1, but what the heck is his team doing ?
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They've made 2 possibly and I repeat possibly incorrect decisions this year -- playing Montreal and skipping the whole clay season.
Again you could argue they weren't incorrect as well.

a) Basel is sentimental favorite for federer
b) he has a better chance of winning Basel than Paris.
a final at Paris gives him only a 100 points more than a Basel win, which doesn't really help that much

But having said that, what I said about the exho stands. decision to play exho was made earlier, which is ok, but now he has to skip or postpone it, if possible. He cannot play it.
 
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fedtennisphan

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Gary Duane said:
Well, lucky in that he clearly was rattled, and even the best player in the world (at any time) can choke on a really bad day.

I think if it had been a quick, easy match, he might have decided to play in Paris. Now I have my doubts.

Think about it: before this match Fed Fans were about to gift him Basel, Paris and the WTF as if #1 at the end of the year is now in the bag.

He's still 36 years old. What he's doing right now can't go on forever.
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You’re reaching. No one was is gifting Federer anything. Who cares whether he can go forever and enough about his age. His participation at Paris was in doubt even before the final. Being champion is coming through in tough times, being rattled is a normal human emotion.
 
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merlinpinpin

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BeatlesFan said:
Fed said he'll decide tonight whether he'll play Paris. And YE #1 is not in his hands. If Nadal makes the Paris final, it's all over unless Rafa loses every RR match at the WTF, which won't happen.
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Errr, no, you're off by quite a bit, here. If Nadal makes the Paris final (and loses to Fed there), he needs to either be in the WTF final or win his three RR matches to end the year #1 (provided Fed wins it all, of course). Winning two RR matches then losing in the semi wouldn't be enough for him, so if Fed plays Paris, it's not over yet, far from it.
 
abmk

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Gary Duane said:
Well, lucky in that he clearly was rattled, and even the best player in the world (at any time) can choke on a really bad day.
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that's just one aspect, Gary. Delpo was clearly more luckier that fed hit bad shots on some of the crucial points and let go of a break lead twice in the 1st set, including after being up 30-15 and then hitting a silly drop shot.

If fed didn't choke, it means he pulled himself together after some time. that's not being lucky.

Gary Duane said:
I think if it had been a quick, easy match, he might have decided to play in Paris. Now I have my doubts.

Think about it: before this match Fed Fans were about to gift him Basel, Paris and the WTF as if #1 at the end of the year is now in the bag.

He's still 36 years old. What he's doing right now can't go on forever.
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I don't think anyone sane was gifting fed Basel, Paris and the YEC.
I'm not sure whom you are referring to here.
 
Gary Duane

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fedtennisphan said:
You’re reaching. No one was is gifting Federer anything. Who cares whether he can go forever and enough about his age. His participation at Paris was in doubt even before the final. Being champion is coming through in tough times, being rattled is a normal human emotion.
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I'm not reaching at all. I saw at least two articles in the past few days talking about the race, and how Fed could still get to #1.

Apparently he shut that down today.
 
fedtennisphan

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abmk said:
They've made 2 possibly and I repeat possibly incorrect decisions this year -- playing Montreal and skipping the whole clay season.
Again you could argue they weren't incorrect as well.

a) Basel is sentimental favorite for federer
b) he has a better chance of winning Basel than Paris.
a final at Paris gives him only a 100 points more than a Basel win, which doesn't really help that much

But having said, what I said about the exho stands. decision to play exho was made earlier, which is ok, but now he has to skip or postpone it, if possible. He cannot play it.
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I think Federer is adult enough to make his own decisions. Federer will be at the exhibition in Glasgow because Murray attended Federer’s when he was not completely healthy. Federer is healthy, so there is no reason for him not to attend.
 
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Charleneriva

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sbengte said:
The ballkids getting medals is the best part of Basel :)
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Raindogs said:
Roger even making sure the medal on the ballkids is facing outwards after placing it on the young lads.

True class act sportsman.
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YetAnotherFedFan said:
Sweet with the ball boys and girls
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Smiling nonstop now. Here we go:
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:):)

(Edit: uploaded a better quality gif)
 
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sbengte

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abmk said:
They've made 2 possibly and I repeat possibly incorrect decisions this year -- playing Montreal and skipping the whole clay season.
Again you could argue they weren't incorrect as well.

a) Basel is sentimental favorite for federer
b) he has a better chance of winning Basel than Paris.
a final at Paris gives him only a 100 points more than a Basel win, which doesn't really help that much

But having said, what I said about the exho stands. decision to play exho was made earlier, which is ok, but now he has to skip or postpone it, if possible. He cannot play it.
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One of skipping clay and playing Montreal would have been OK. But both together were really killers.

Even the Paris over Basel only came to be a question because of those two earlier decisions.

Didn't even know the exho was on Nov 7th. I doubt it is possible to postpone it. Why on earth can't they schedule these exhos just after WTF or just before the next season ?
 
abmk

abmk

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fedtennisphan said:
I think Federer is adult enough to make his own decisions. Federer will be at the exhibition in Glasgow because Murray attended Federer’s when he was not completely healthy. Federer is not healthy, so there is no reason for him not to attend.
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yeah, there absolutely is.
2 reasons :
1. the YEC
2. the race for #1 is still not dead

they should've scheduled the exho a few days after the YEC, atleast.
 
Gary Duane

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abmk said:
that's just one aspect, Gary. Delpo was clearly more luckier that fed hit bad shots on some of the crucial points and let go of a break lead twice in the 1st set, including after beig up 30-15 and then hitting a silly drop shot.

If fed didn't choke, it means he pulled himself together after some time. that's not being lucky.
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Could be. But I thought he was about to lose until the very end of the 2nd set, and I could hardly believe how he lost the 1st set.
I don't think anyone sane was gifting fed Basel, Paris and the YEC.
I'm not sure whom you are referring to here.
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Can't find the article at the moment, but there was at least one talking almost that confidently. That article is now old news.

And I personally think he COULD have done it, possibly, if he had the physical strength left to play Paris.
 
fedtennisphan

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abmk said:
that's just one aspect, Gary. Delpo was clearly more luckier that fed hit bad shots on some of the crucial points and let go of a break lead twice in the 1st set, including after being up 30-15 and then hitting a silly drop shot.

If fed didn't choke, it means he pulled himself together after some time. that's not being lucky.



I don't think anyone sane was gifting fed Basel, Paris and the YEC.
I'm not sure whom you are referring to here.
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Gary seems like he’s trying to hard, like it’s an agenda.
 
abmk

abmk

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sbengte said:
One of skipping clay and playing Montreal would have been OK. But both together were really killers.

Even the Paris over Basel only came to be a question because of those two earlier decisions.

Didn't even know the exho was on Nov 7th. I doubt it is possible to postpone it. Why on earth can't they schedule these exhos just after WTF or just before the next season ?
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yeah, that's true. why didn't schedule the exho atleast a few days after the YEC ? *scratches head*
 
abmk

abmk

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Gary Duane said:
Could be. But I thought he was about to lose until the very end of the 2nd set, and I could hardly believe how he lost the 1st set.
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I didn't think he was about to lose, but that possibility was clearly there at 4 all, 30-all in the 2nd set.
But it was skill that got him through, not luck.

disagree on this , quite clearly.

Gary Duane said:
Can't find the article at the moment, but there was at least one talking almost that confidently. That article is now old news.

And I personally think he COULD have done it, possibly, if he had the physical strength left to play Paris.
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ok, but one article by one fan(/atic) doesn't make it true for many fed fans.
 
cc0509

cc0509

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BeatlesFan said:
Why do you doubt what he has said all week? :rolleyes: If you bothered to watch his pressers, he has said every single day this week that Paris is not a priority and he won't decide whether he'll play it until he sees how long the final is. Could he still play, could his statements be merely verbal subterfuge? Sure.

I am quoting Fed directly, not feigning as if I'm in his head. Get a grip.
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It just seems to me that you live a little too vicariously through Federer and talk like you are in Federer's head. You are in Octobrina territory at times! ;)

I just think that he has little to lose to try to go for the ye#1 as I doubt he'll have the opportunity again. But I'm fine with whatever he decides. If he feels it will affect his chances of winning the WTF, he knows best.
 
fedtennisphan

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Legend of Borg said:
you're not wrong

G duane is a "fedal fan" (bullsh1t term, fedal fans don't exist) who swings towards rafito territory

he's mild compared to the likes of the bipolar fangirls but make no mistake he's not exactly fond of fed
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I know my vibe wasn’t wrong. The whole Federer was “lucky” comments were a dead giveaway. I had a vibe that particular poster wasn’t to fond of Federer winning hence the “lucky” remarks. It’s no such thing as a Fedal fan.
 
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mike danny said:
Fun match. Delpo has been Fed's rival this year.

Which is good because I believed after 2013 that they were done as a rivalry. And that all their match-ups would be like their 2017 Miami match. So glad I was wrong.
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Congratz on the title. You are one of the few real Federer fans on this forum.
 
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User123

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mike danny said:
Thanks. Gotta enjoy every title Federer wins from now on because who knows when it will be his last :)

And congrats on the YE#1 for your guy :) You also are one of the good Nadal fans on this forum.
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What? o_O
Is it official that Federer skips Paris? Somebody made a thread without source, so I'm not sure.
 
BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

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Basler Zeitung saying Fed will NOT play Paris, though they cite no source. DWTV in Germany just mentioned it as "extremely doubtful."
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Roger Federer said: “I’m too far behind really in the points.

“If I thought about it maybe I wouldn’t even enjoy the end of the season because the whole season would feel a waste.

“The whole great season I played would feel it’s a bad one.

“I’m sorry to say it’s (Paris) not a priority for me. People like to talk about it and make it a big deal about it.”

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/872788/Roger-Federer-Paris-Masters-Rafael-Nadal
 
Fedeonic

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Mainad said:
Was he saying rude things about someone's mother again??:eek:
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I saw him insulting Mirka with that insult. But this one is more about complaining about the crown in a not so gentle way. The O word is a rude way to say the a., also saying "p. madre" could means like "f-ing w." Ya' understand me, right?
 
ark_28

ark_28

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Federer played well and deserved the trophy but the question is could he do it on a cold day with no spectators in Upminster?
 
Mainad

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The year of 'La Octava' continues for Fed with his 8th title at his home event in Basel to complement his 8th title at his 2nd home, Wimbledon! :cool:

Title number 95, 8th in Basel, 7th this year, 19th at 500 level (tying Nadal once again in most titles won at that level) plus 1st win over Del Potro in a Basel final at his 3rd attempt!! :)
 
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