ATP M1000 Paris 2023
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Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Me too. I really wasn't expecting him to play at such a high level tonight.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
I know Paris Masters is one of the least liked Masters 1000s ("even Jack Sock won it!), but this tournament has produced several fabulous matches. Let's see what Dimi brings tomorrow, I think he might have a shot. Djoker's gotta be drained from these last two epic matches.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Should he have lost really? It was a close match. He was never in real danger of losing the match. He played well in crunch moments. The TB was sublimt, and when he served to stay in the match couple of times he held easily.
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
They called me an anti jinxer when I said Rublev will never win this match
Benf15harp
Hall of Fame
Rublows is annoying AF
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Boris talked to the German media yesterday after the Rune loss and they asked him about Alcaraz. He was brutally honest and said, "well, you know, Turin surface is as fast almost as carpet back in our day. It's the fastest surface on the circuit. Alcaraz hasn't proved he can play on fast, fast surfaces. Wimbledon isn't fast anymore. I think Djokovic is the favorite because he can play on glass if that was the surface. He has the advantage over the field there. Maybe Zverev too if he serves at his highest level. It will be interesting."
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Well Becker is a smart guy and knows the game well, and what he says appears that way to me too even though I don't know the game as well as he does because I never played it at his level. I said the same thing earlier this week about faster surfaces and Alcaraz, and agree with Boris. Djokovic definitely is in great position to end the year #1 no matter what happens in Turin, but on that surface he has the edge over the field.
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
The finals will be close but it just feels like a match where Djokovic ends up winning 7-6 6-4 or 7-5
Benf15harp
Hall of Fame
Grigor
Of course he will he’s facing an ALL TIME underachiever
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Well, Rublev played better than expected, can't really ask more from him. His ceiling is pretty well established and he's doing his darn hardest to not drop lower at least.
Should've won in Shanghai though as much as I like Hubie.
Should've won in Shanghai though as much as I like Hubie.
TheAssassin
Legend
Love that celebration. Faces all four sides stretched out. May the boob throwing days never return.
The thrill of tennis (and Djokovic) on display right there. Rublev could have easily won the opening set earlier/more convincingly. On the other hand same applies for Novak in the next two. But the other player did well to stay alive for longer on each occasion so we got a far more memorable match. Easily the best one this match up has delivered so far.
Andrey really brought some heavy artillery today. Serving was good, was hitting the ball powerfully and with great placement, didn't have blackouts, was calm. He can definitely cause damage in the future if this sort of level can be maintained. However this stunning geriatric still has quite a bit more to say himself.
Bring on the resurrected Grigolo.
The thrill of tennis (and Djokovic) on display right there. Rublev could have easily won the opening set earlier/more convincingly. On the other hand same applies for Novak in the next two. But the other player did well to stay alive for longer on each occasion so we got a far more memorable match. Easily the best one this match up has delivered so far.
Andrey really brought some heavy artillery today. Serving was good, was hitting the ball powerfully and with great placement, didn't have blackouts, was calm. He can definitely cause damage in the future if this sort of level can be maintained. However this stunning geriatric still has quite a bit more to say himself.
Bring on the resurrected Grigolo.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
And at least Djokovic will be facing Grigor and not Tsitsipas. I'd rather not see that match-up again unless Tsitsipas brings something different to the table.
Benf15harp
Hall of Fame
Conveniently left off GOAT SINNER shame shame Boris
Benf15harp
Hall of Fame
Novak winning matches at 30% lol. What an era
pirhaksar
Professional
Is this against the rules? Why did the umpire allow it?
Good prediction of mine.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
I'm not saying this quote aged well, but aging it definitely did
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Boris is no fan of Sinner's mentality, as he's mentioned a few times, see below (though he has also praised him on occasion). I seriously doubt he'll do much praising of a Rune rival going forward, especially since he's now confirmed as Holger's F/T coach since Lars is officially toast.
https://sportal.eu/2023/07/15/boris-becker-disagrees-with-jannik-sinner/
pirhaksar
Professional
Scorline suggests pretty tight match could have gone either way.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
exactly, so what. I don't crap on a whole generation all day however.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I haven't done that in days/weeks in fairness.
pirhaksar
Professional
You should ignore these one note weak era posters, just not worth it. Let them wallow in that. Let’s enjoy good tennis when it’s played regardless of who wins by all measures Bercy has thrown out some great ones. The comeback of Tsit and Baby Fed is great too see. Hope they bring it to 2024!
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
He's had a great year for him though. He won his first Masters, he's had some deep runs in big events. He's probably never winning a slam, but he's improved his mentality and BH this year.
BGod
G.O.A.T.
He has incredible conditioning and starts out every match at like 50% effort. If he really feels threatened you might then see 80%+ effort like today in the 2nd set but honestly he just elevates his percentages and of course his I fervor opponents will typically make mental errors.
But I mean he recognizes the moment. Losses like to Rune or similar were him trying to coast most of the match and to his opponent's credit they never let up where he could simply rise to 80% and put them away.
His worst losses last 2 years were really only the USO Med Final and Alcaraz at Wimbledon. Sure last year's French to Nadal I guess but frankly Nadal was just better and Novak cannot go 100% against him on clay too early as he will run out, and that was in the end close 4th set loss.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
chuckersthenut
Hall of Fame
Hope sir grigor sticks it to the champ tomorrow.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Yea that's true if it's close.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
If I have it right, that 10 point difference makes it so that Djokovic has to win a RR match in Turin to secure it irrespective of what Alcaraz does, IF he wins the title tomorrow.
Genie Of the Bank
Hall of Fame
Maybe Dumpster Djokovic, dumping it on ATP since 2006.
Winners or Errors
Legend
But let's face it, either guy is Djokovic's pigeon and I'm not expecting much from Dimitrov.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, the 10 point difference is in favor of Alcaraz. If Novak wins the title tomorrow, that would give him a 1490 point lead, which means Alcaraz can take #1 if he goes perfect and Djokovic doesn't win any matches in Turin
Whereas with a 1500 point lead, Djokovic would seal #1 with a win tomorrow regardless of what happens in Turin
TheAssassin
Legend
By reaching the Paris final, Djokovic has now put Alcaraz in a situation that he must win the ATP Finals to have any chance. Depending on what happens tomorrow. Djokovic would need one or three wins in Torino to seal the deal.
No I don’t think it’s against the rules. Just seems a little odd to me that one player’s whim can determine whether the break between a set is 90 seconds or 15 minutes. Whatever the exact solution, I think things could be made a little more regular. Maybe a longer standard set break that includes time to run to the bathroom – but then no extra bathroom/kit change breaks or whatever.
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RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
In other words, Djoko has to F up real good to bottle this. He is firmly in the driver seat and it's up to him what happens next.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, the final will be tough
Djokovic's played 10 hours (9h 59m 59s) of tennis four days straight, and 8h 35m in the last three days
You have to wonder what kind of energy he has left in the tank
Enceladus
Legend
Rublev played accurately, aggressively and at the same time placed his shots at different angles, making Novak unable to be on time for many balls. I have never seen Rublev play better. Nole, on the other hand, was not in optimal game form, he was surprisingly weaker in long rallies. However, he still managed to win, which is a testament to his rock-solid mental strength.
Winners or Errors
Legend
...or Rublev's mental weakness.Rublev played accurately, aggressively and at the same time placed his shots at different angles, making Novak unable to be on time for many balls. I have never seen Rublev play better. Nole, on the other hand, was not in optimal game form, he was surprisingly weaker in long rallies. However, he still managed to win, which is a testament to his rock-solid mental strength.
Benf15harp
Hall of Fame
Yep. Grigor has a better chance of having a full head of hair tomorrow than he does beating Novak at 30%
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
@Benf15harp Well, Boris is obviously jealous of Sinner's incredible career. Boris was a bust in slams, won basically nothing in his career either, so a towering GOAT like Sinner would definitely push him over the cliff in terms of pathological envy.
pirhaksar
Professional
If he loses, what’s the scenario for YE? He will need 500 more points right assuming Carlos wins 1500? So that means getting to semis? I don’t see him getting to the finals at Turin based on this weeks play, so better try and find a way to win trow.
nolefam_2024
G.O.A.T.
Sad I missed the drama due to being hungover.
nolefam_2024
G.O.A.T.
There is 2 weeks break. Who cares about this week.
top10
Semi-Pro
The WTF is the most forgiving tournament. Novak can literally drop a match and still win or even drop 2 matches and still get points enough for YE #1
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
You have a good time bro?
