2017 Shanghai - General Discussion Thread

marc45 · Oct 12, 2017

hmm...

Carole Bouchard‏ @carole_bouchard 2h2 hours ago
Asked about pressure on Chinese junior player winner of USO, Federer ends on France and he's not impressed :

3fees · Oct 12, 2017

ArcspacE said:
Can Viktor save tennis?

Could Arc be a bot in disquise ?

Cheers
3Fees

ruerooo · Oct 12, 2017

SeeingDusk said:
I'm so not used to all these new guys on the block. I want the veterans back - the guys I grew up watching.

So ... I take it you're not one of the fans who complains endlessly about seeing "the same old guys in the later rounds" and "we need some new blood".

ruerooo · Oct 12, 2017

Fedberg20 said:
I actually admire Diego, a little guy really does his best with what he was given. But on Shanghai, which is or should be the fastest court around, no serve means no joy. In fact he might actually not make it to round 2 as the qualifiers aren't to be taken lightely. I see 5-6 guys that could take The Schwartz to funky town

He gave Roger a few fits there in the first round of their match.

Chanwan · Oct 12, 2017

marc45 said:
hmm...

Carole Bouchard‏ @carole_bouchard 2h2 hours ago
Asked about pressure on Chinese junior player winner of USO, Federer ends on France and he's not impressed :

Gotta love Fed's interviews, not afraid to dish it out every now and again.

marc45 · Oct 12, 2017

Chanwan said:
Gotta love Fed's interviews, not afraid to dish it out every now and again.

Pascal Giberné‏ @PascalGibBN 6h6 hours ago
Pascal Giberné Retweeted Carole Bouchard

Not impressed? You are being kind. He is, rightfully so, trashing our all system/tennisculture...

marc45 · Oct 12, 2017

also Carole Bouchard

Textbook Rafa : "I have already answered this question many times...", a sigh and he just does it all over again as if it was the first time

The Green Mile · Oct 12, 2017

Amazing that Troicki has only made a single QF at Masters level before this week. Similar to the Cilic case before he won Cinci last year. Had never made a SF stage before that tournament.

Meles · Oct 12, 2017

Mainad said:
Can't seem to find a thread for Zverev-Del Potro. I presume there is one somewhere (can't believe nobody started one)!

That's what I thought when I made it. Just horrible match times for the Euros and for me match started at 2 a.m..

SeeingDusk · Oct 12, 2017

ruerooo said:
So ... I take it you're not one of the fans who complains endlessly about seeing "the same old guys in the later rounds" and "we need some new blood".

Absolutely not. My childhood dies when those guys all retire.

Charleneriva · Oct 12, 2017

SeeingDusk said:
Absolutely not. My childhood dies when those guys all retire.

So young you are. ♪Forever young?

My childhood died when Hingis retired. She was my first love. Then Fed and Rafa brought it back...

Goosehead · Oct 12, 2017

Charleneriva said:
Fed served at 80% today . How often is that?

fedster served high numbers v murray at wimb sf in 2014/or15 ?. one of his best ever all round matches.

Charleneriva · Oct 12, 2017

Goosehead said:
fedster served high numbers v murray at wimb sf in 2014/or15 ?. one of his best ever all round matches.

Wimby 15 SF, 76%, 20 aces in 3 sets. Very impressive. But I mean how often his 1st serve % is in the 80++. Looks strange really in the stats.

The Green Mile · Oct 12, 2017

Charleneriva said:
Wimby 15 SF, 76%, 20 aces in 3 sets. Very impressive. But I mean how often his 1st serve % is in the 80++. Looks strange really in the stats.

Very rare I would imagine. Probably only a handful of times throughout his career. It would be cool to see stats on this.

Charleneriva · Oct 12, 2017

The Green Mile said:
Very rare I would imagine. Probably only a handful of times throughout his career. It would be cool to see stats on this.

That's what I thought when I looked at the stats. So I'm really curious.

The Green Mile · Oct 12, 2017

Charleneriva said:
That's what I thought when I looked at the stats. So I'm really curious.

Looked it up, he's got six matches over 80%.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqq

Looked up Rafa as well, 53 matches

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RafaelNadal&f=ACareerqqC2s120

Charleneriva · Oct 12, 2017

The Green Mile said:
Looked it up, he's got six matches over 80%.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqq

Looked up Rafa as well, 53 matches

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RafaelNadal&f=ACareerqqC2s120

Thanks a lot! I was actually swimming in there to find out. How did you count them out so fast? For some reason I can only view that site properly on my phone, not iPad and laptop and it's not convenient at all to copy those stats to google sheet and let it do the work.

The Green Mile · Oct 12, 2017

Charleneriva said:
Thanks a lot! I was actually swimming in there to find out. How did you count them out so fast? For some reason I can only view that site properly on my phone, not iPad and laptop and it's not convenient at all to copy those stats to google sheet and let it do the work.

You can make it list his top percentages first, and then it goes down from there. Just have to click the stat at the top, in this case it's "1stIn"

Charleneriva · Oct 12, 2017

The Green Mile said:
You can make it list his top percentages first, and then it goes down from there. Just have to click the stat at the top, in this case it's "1stIn"

aaa I see

. Inexplicable why I didn't think of it.

So it's 7 matches now with the Dolgo match. Funny Rafa is on this list:

veroniquem · Oct 12, 2017

Zebrev said:
Less than 5% chance Nadal makes it past both Dimitrov and Cilic. He's still not equipt to handle decent hardcourters. Luckily he managed both US and Beijing without meeting any.

He beat Dimitrov in Beijing. Cilic could be trickier on a fast surface like Shanghai. Still, Rafa has a good chance to make final. More than 5% for sure.

MichaelNadal · Oct 12, 2017

NatF said:
Only 2 UE's from Nadal. With stats like that he's going to be nearly unbeatable.

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SeeingDusk · Oct 12, 2017

Charleneriva said:
So young you are. ♪Forever young?

My childhood died when Hingis retired. She was my first love. Then Fed and Rafa brought it back...

I wanna be forever young. Do you want to live forever?

That’s surprising considering how Hingis is around Fed’s age. She had a rather short career in comparison! I think the current young guns will keep it exciting after the veterans hang up their racquets. However, I don’t anticipate the excitement to match that of the 2000s-present. That’s a tall order!

Mainad · Oct 12, 2017

Cilic beats Ramos in straights. First one through to the semis.

SQA333 · Oct 13, 2017

I know people are shoeing-in the Fedal final, but I think Del Potro has been the standout in the bottom half so far, and thus the slight favourite to make it over Roger.

Aussie Darcy · Oct 13, 2017

Cilic's win over Ramos pushes him past Zverev in the live rankings meaning Cilic will reach a new career high of #4 on Monday.

Has just one title in 2017 (ATP250) and just two top 10 wins.. that's not great.

NatF · Oct 13, 2017

Federer sweeping the courts himself. Who says he's arrogant?

TheGhostOfAgassi · Oct 13, 2017

Federers whopping FH is prima already this match

NatF · Oct 13, 2017

Beautiful dropper.

TheGhostOfAgassi · Oct 13, 2017

Federers BH on place again as beg of season.

Red Rick · Oct 13, 2017

No match thread for the GOAT and his more talented* rival

according to a lot of people with no ****ing clue about tennis

The_Order · Oct 13, 2017

Ree-shard with a nice bh to save bp.

Red Rick · Oct 13, 2017

Gasquet's flat forehand is very underrated, but it is even more rare.

heninfan99 · Oct 13, 2017

Red Rick said:
No match thread for the GOAT and his more talented* rival

according to a lot of people with no ****ing clue about tennis

Let us know when Fognini beats Federer twice genius

mike danny · Oct 13, 2017

Where is Ljubo? Did Roger sack him?

NatF · Oct 13, 2017

Just out, would have been a bullet winner...

enlightenment · Oct 13, 2017

Looking to finish this one within an hour!

The_Order · Oct 13, 2017

WOW. So now I've seen Rafa's worst fh for the year in that 2nd set TB and just then, Roger's worst fh for the year. It wasn't a shank off the frame and it still didn't land anywhere near the court.

Pagoo · Oct 13, 2017

mike danny said:
Where is Ljubo? Did Roger sack him?

Lately, I've no confidence when Ljubo isn't around.I feel he really pushes Federer. Severin just comes across as too laid back in my opinion.

NatF · Oct 13, 2017

The_Order said:
WOW. So now I've seen Rafa's worst fh for the year in that 2nd set TB and just then, Roger's worst fh for the year. It wasn't a shank off the frame and it still didn't land anywhere near the court.

Now Roger's worst smash of the year...

Pagoo · Oct 13, 2017

Hopefully, Gasquet doesn't spring a surprise. He's beaten Federer twice (on clay).

NatF · Oct 13, 2017

Great get from Gasquet! Thought it was good volley as well...

Wilhelm · Oct 13, 2017

Mistakerer in the house?

The_Order · Oct 13, 2017

Ree-shard tried to be aggressive with the return but he hit it straight to Roger.

He has the talent we've known this for years but his shot selection at times is really puzzling.

SQA333 · Oct 13, 2017

How has Federer not broken serve yet.

Red Rick · Oct 13, 2017

heninfan99 said:
Let us know when Fognini beats Federer twice genius

Let us know when you can make a post with any rationale

NatF · Oct 13, 2017

SQA333 said:
How has Federer not broken serve yet.

Gasquet has played solid tennis, Federer is playing really aggressive trying to keep the points short - making a few errors.

DismalFuture · Oct 13, 2017

Red Rick said:
Let us know when you can make a post with any rationale

Let us know now.

Pagoo · Oct 13, 2017

Federer looking to get broken. Wonder why he chose to receive.

NatF · Oct 13, 2017

Sounded like Federer shouted, "Who wants some!" after that pont

Pagoo · Oct 13, 2017

SQA333 said:
How has Federer not broken serve yet.

Think he had break points at 1-1.

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